http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19992
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20034
Zda se, ze NVIDIE se chysta preskocit refresh a vypustit rovnou novou generaci. Bude to NV47 nebo ??
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19992
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20034
Zda se, ze NVIDIE se chysta preskocit refresh a vypustit rovnou novou generaci. Bude to NV47 nebo ??
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
Jedine dobre. Stejne se hodlam na celou soucasnou radu vykaslat a poridit az dalsi generaci. Doufam, ze jejich marketingove oddeleni prestane delat v modelech takove uchylne zmatky jako doted. Se staci podivat na nasledujici tabulku zkopirovanou z popisu ovladacu (ani neni cela). Hlavne se podivejte uplne dolu, jak to v dobach GF3 bylo nadherne jednoduche a pak to porovnejte s FX radou. To aby se v tech jejich LE SE XT ZT GT VE a kdovi co jeste prase vyznalo. Jako kdyby prokristapana nestacilo odlisovat modely ciselnou radou...
GeForce 6200
GeForce 6600
GeForce 6600 GT
GeForce 6800 Ultra
GeForce 6800
GeForce 6800 GT
GeForce 6800 LE
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GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
GeForce FX 5700
GeForce FX 5700LE
GeForce FX 5700VE
GeForce PCX 5750
GeForce FX 5900
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900 XT
GeForce FX 5900ZT
GeForce PCX 5900
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
GeForce FX 5200 LE
GeForce FX 5200
GeForce FX 5500
GeForce FX 5100
GeForce PCX 5300
GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
GeForce FX 5600
GeForce FX 5600XT
GeForce FX 5600SE
GeForce FX 5800 Ultra
GeForce FX 5800
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GeForce4 Ti 4800
GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE
GeForce4 Ti 4200 w/AGP 8x
GeForce4 Ti 4600
GeForce4 Ti 4400
GeForce4 Ti 4200
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GeForce3
GeForce3 Ti 500
GeForce3 Ti 200
Počítače šetří práci, čas a peníze... Vážně tomu někdo věří?
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U NV48 je to logicke, to byl jen refresh, ale NV50 mela byt dalsi generace. Podle urcitych lidi, to ale vypada, ze NV50 bude spis posunuta a nasledne prejmenovana na NV60. Ze by trosku predehnala dobu? Vypada to na stejny pripad jako R500, kdyz desktopove ji bude odpovidat az R600. Zatim se priklanim ke spekulacim, ze uvidime NV47, ktera by mela mit 24-pipeline + par veci prave z NV50.
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
Ak bude medzigeneracny skok ako z 5 serie na 6kovu som za Pokial ide skorej o daco ako z 5800 na 5900 , tak nic moc btw ... v tych modeloch by fakt mohlo byt viac poriadok
Sice to s tematem vubec nesouvisi, ale nema cenu zakladat zbytecne novy thread. Ted jsem se dozvedel, ze rada 6800 podporuje taky 3Dc, docela prekvapeni
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
To asi zavisi na formulacii... momentalne to vyzera tak, ze ju emuluje cez drivers a iny pribuzny texture format za cenu 2x pamatovej narocnosti.
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Jiste, zatim to tak vypada, ale at uz je to tak nebo tak, urcite to pomuze rozsireni 3Dc a profitovat z toho budeme jen my.Původně odeslal sisi
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
Asi ano, ale uprimne, ja by som z 3Dc nerobil taku velku zalezitost ako sa ATI snazi prezentovat. A ak je to naozaj tak, ze to driver "prepakuje" do ineho formatu, pricom sa 2x zvacsi objem dat, tak to potom ide proti samotnej filozofii kompresie - "napchat viac do mensieho objemu".
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2GHz (8 * 400MHz) @ 1.3V with Zalman CNPS9500 AT @ 1800RPM, ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi, 2x1GB Corsair Twin2X PC2-6400 DDRAM @ 400MHz (4-4-4-12) @ 2.1V, Leadtek 8800GT 512MB, WD Caviar SE16 250GB, Asus DRW-1608P3S, Creative SB Audigy Value, Logitech X-230 speakers, Enermax Liberty 400W, 2x120mm Thermaltake case fan @ 1800RPM, Thermaltake Aguila black case, HP LP2065 LCD, Logitech MX400
ale asi to zvisi kvalitu, alebo zabezpeci v kartach s mensou pametou lepsie kvalitnejsie spracovanie textur, a hlavne rychlejsie,Původně odeslal sisi
len tak strielam, neviem ci to takto moze byt
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3Dc je velmi specificky format vyvinuty na kompresiu predovsetkym normalovych map. Teda "tradicnych" textur sa vobec netyka. Sam o sebe ziaden narast kvality neponuka, len umoznuje developerom pouzit 4x viac dat ako by si mohli dovolit v pripade nepouzitia kompresie. Teda takto nepriamo vplyva na IQ - pokial developeri od zaciatku pouzivaju 3Dc, mozu pracovat so stvornasobne detailnejsimi normalovymi mapami pri nezmenenej pamatovej narocnosti. Vykonnostne rozdiely su vacsinou minimalne - ak nepocitame nejake extremne pripady s velkym objemom normal map, pri ktorych by bez pouzitia 3Dc dochadzalo napr. k preplneniu video RAMky...
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to Sisi> Wow ty to fakt studujes , 3DC vyzera ako fajn vec dufajme ze tak do roka to uvidime v plnej nadhere
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Aby doslo k nejakemu vetsimu rozsireni, tak by 3Dc muselo byt prohlaseno za soucast WGF 2.0. Ted kdyz s 3Dc experimentuje i nV tak se sance urcite zvysi, ale budeme se muset nechat prekvapit.Původně odeslal MK2
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
Niektori ludia tvrdia, ze vzhladom na uzku spolupracu ATI & MS co sa tyka grafickeho jadra nadchadzajuceho XBoxu2 (Xenon aka R500) sa features typu 3Dc "velmi lahko" dostanu dnu. Ci to ale bude nutna podmienka pre oznacenie HW ako WGF / DXNext / "dosad-iny-kazdu-chvilu-sa-meniaci-nazov" compliant, to je uz ina zalezitost...
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a nema nahodou Nvidia tiez jednu super fintu na kompresiu normalovych map pri nizkej strate kvality. Sa my zda ze to je zasa daky Nvdiacky patent ktory je tu uz dobre dlho.
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PC2: 8RDA+, 1700+@2200+(200*9)@1.5V, 512 DDR400 BLITZ /ale zevraj A-data CHACHA/ so super agrasivnym casovanim 3-4-4-8 , 9100 - zobrazovaci adapter
Myslis asi DSTPůvodně odeslal MATRIX
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
Tak po dnesnim prohlaseni, ze NVIDIE spolupracuje uz pres dva roky se Sony na Cell procesoru, ktery by se mel starat o grafiku v PS3, uz zruseni NV50 dava smysl Ze bychom se dockali Cell procesoru i v grafikach pro PC ?
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
Ak to ma byt naozaj tak tak ATI ma velky problem - BIG problem sice ich 520 bude dobry ale CELL /asi dooost modifikovany/ na grafiku je CELL na grafiku.
BTW nezrusila Nvidia NV50 hlavne preto ze chcu strhnut nielen korunu ale aj zezlo na svoju stranu. /dost predbehnut svoju konkurenciu /
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PC2: 8RDA+, 1700+@2200+(200*9)@1.5V, 512 DDR400 BLITZ /ale zevraj A-data CHACHA/ so super agrasivnym casovanim 3-4-4-8 , 9100 - zobrazovaci adapter
Ja som vyrozumel ze Nvidia navrhla GPU do PS3, myslim architekturov daco pribuzne s GF6 (Daka odnož sa urcite objavy aj na PC )
Cell i ked vraj bude ficat na 4ghz je CPU ..nie GPU navrhnute na tuto pracu.
Myslím ,že si děláš docela pěkný naděje ,ale Cell je pouze procesor vytvořený a vyráběný v IBM . nVidia spolupracovala pouze na grafickém čipu se SONY a SONY ho bude i vyrábět Samo nV mohla zrušit NV50 protože zjistila ,že na ATI nebude stačit. ATI spolupracuje zase s MS na X-BOXu a tam se taky rodí pěkný grafický jádro. Jednoduše řečeno nV i ATI si vezmou čipy které vyvíjely pro konzole a dají je do PC.Původně odeslal Masster
PC1=Gigabyte P35-DQ6/C2D E8400@4GHz/WD5000AAKS+WD Raptor 74+150Gb/Gigabyte 460GTX/2xTwin2x2048-6400=4GB/X-Fi Fatality/Samsung SH-S183L/Fortron Epsilon 700W/NEC 20WGX2/HecoVicta500+Marantz
PC2=DFI LP Ultra-D/AMD64 X2 4400+/Raptor 36Gb+WD2500KS/Palit 460GTX/Twinx2048-3500LLPro/DVDRW LG GSA-4160B/Fortron 500W/Comaq S710/Audigy2
PC3= Abit AV8/ AMD64 3000+@266x9=2400/Seagate 160GB+WD 120GB/Sapphire X800Pro@XT TOXIC /2x512Mb A-DATA 566/Audigy 1/AOC 17" 7A+/DVDRW LG GSA-4120B/Fortron 350W
PC4= Soltek 75DRV5 KT333/AMD 1700+@2000+/2x256Mb Kingmax 400/3Dfx Voodoo 5500/SB 128 CT4700/Maxtor 40GB/DVD Asus E616/EVER 250W
Tu je oficialne vyhlase Sony & Nvidie ohladne ich noveho GPU :
http://www.gfdata.de/gamefront-temp/sonynvidia.pdf
Mno PS3 ma oficialne vyjst az v 2006, takze sa my nezda, ze by Nvidia dovtedy nemala ziaden novy cip
Mozno nejaky predskokan ..ako GF3 a neskorej fullverzia ako GF4TI
Tim bych si nebyl tak jisty, zatim to totiz vypada, ze NVIDIE na chipu pouze spolupracovala a ze pracovala prave na Cell a upravovala ho tak, aby pracoval jako GPU, o tom se totiz mluvilo uz od zacatku. Pokud by se to potvrdilo, tak jedine co by si NVIDIE mohla vzit by byl prave upraveny Cell.Původně odeslal Hladis
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
O spojení IBM a nVidie jsem neviděl jedinou zprávu. Co vím ,tak Cell je výtvorem pouze IBM a je to jen procesor ne GPU. To co jsi napsal jsou spíš jen spekulace. GPU vyrábí sama Sony a nVidia pouze spolupracovala při návrhu čipu. Jestli bude GPU na bázi Cellu je opět zatím jen spekulace.Původně odeslal Masster
PC1=Gigabyte P35-DQ6/C2D E8400@4GHz/WD5000AAKS+WD Raptor 74+150Gb/Gigabyte 460GTX/2xTwin2x2048-6400=4GB/X-Fi Fatality/Samsung SH-S183L/Fortron Epsilon 700W/NEC 20WGX2/HecoVicta500+Marantz
PC2=DFI LP Ultra-D/AMD64 X2 4400+/Raptor 36Gb+WD2500KS/Palit 460GTX/Twinx2048-3500LLPro/DVDRW LG GSA-4160B/Fortron 500W/Comaq S710/Audigy2
PC3= Abit AV8/ AMD64 3000+@266x9=2400/Seagate 160GB+WD 120GB/Sapphire X800Pro@XT TOXIC /2x512Mb A-DATA 566/Audigy 1/AOC 17" 7A+/DVDRW LG GSA-4120B/Fortron 350W
PC4= Soltek 75DRV5 KT333/AMD 1700+@2000+/2x256Mb Kingmax 400/3Dfx Voodoo 5500/SB 128 CT4700/Maxtor 40GB/DVD Asus E616/EVER 250W
ee... Cell neni len vytvorom IBMPůvodně odeslal Hladis
Nevim, nevim :
Nejak se mu o PS3 GPU nechce vyjadrovatOK, I chanced my arm again with NVidia's PR, and was told this:
"Although we cannot comment on technical details, I can tell you that the
GPU is a custom version of NVIDIA's next generation GPU, which is not
Cell based."
edit:
I asked him to clarify if he meant both Nvidia's next-gen GPU and the PS3 GPU would not be cell-based and he replied:
"I can just comment on NVIDIA's next generation GPU which is not cell
based."
EDIT: Nejak se nam ty vyjadreni koukam rozchazeji....
X"It will be a custom GPU, not based on an existing architecture," said Jen-Hsun Huang, speaking at an "Editor's Day" for reporters and analysts at the company's Santa Clara, Calif.-based headquarters. "It will be based on an architecture under development." Neither Nvidia nor Sony disclosed further details about the new architecture.
"Although we cannot comment on technical details, I can tell you that the
GPU is a custom version of NVIDIA's next generation GPU, which is not
Cell based."
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
V čem se rozchází?
Mě se zdá jasný, že PS3 GPU je GeForce příští generace vyvíjená ve spolupráci se Sony a se cell nemá nic společnýho.
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