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    NVIDIA Vista drivers update: Future plans unveiled

    NVIDIA told me that they planning to start releasing a new version of their Forceware driver for Vista at least once every month. I say at least because Diercks said that if they find several game fixes or bugs that are substantial they may have intermittent releases as well to help appease the gaming masses. This move is very similar to the driver development cycle that ATI’s Catalyst drivers have been in for a couple of years now, with updates about once a month. Having this type of regular schedule should help NVIDIA users feel more at ease about their purchases knowing that a fixed time length is ahead of them to await another software release that could address whatever issue that ails them.
    http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=357
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    NVIDIA's New Vista Quality Assurance Page

    For those of you that are using Windows Vista and experiencing any problems, we’ve set up this website, including a bug reporting tool for end users to submit their experiences to NVIDIA. Our product managers will be reviewing this information daily and will be contacting users to help resolve any issues they might be experiencing.
    Dole na strance muzete najit tento formular po jehoz vyplneni muzete nahlasit driver bugy.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Geforce 8900 GTX has 25 per cent more shaders

    http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=37610

    Inquirer zle interpretuje ...

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    G84, Geforce 8600 to score 4500 in 3Dmark 06
    NVIDIA'S Geforce 8600 cards, based on the G84 die, should score about 4500 points in famous 3Dmark06. This mainstream card will go into production in March or April time and it will still use the 128-bit memory interface.
    ....
    Our little source also told us that this Nvidia card has 160 square mm die and compared to ATI's 65 nanometre competitor it will end up bigger.
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    theinquirer;


    Digitimes update:
    Nvidia is preparing to launch a series of GeForce 8600 cards in the middled of the second quarter 2007 to help satisfy the increasing demand for DirectX 10 supporting graphics cards caused by Windows Vista, according to market sources. The GeForce 8600 series will be priced to target mainstream markets, the sources add.

    According to the release plan several versions are currently being prepared, the sources claim. The GeForce 8600 GT with 512MB memory will be priced between US$219 and US$229, while a 256MB version will be available at US$199. Additionally, targeting an even lower price point will be the GeForce 8600GS at between US$159 and US$165, the sources have revealed.
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    Dalsie novinky:
    Nvidia plans DirectX 10 cards for AGP slot
    G84 goes Geforce 8600xx AGP
    NVIDIA'S GEFORCE 7600 GS, its AGP card, will get a new follower, cleverly codenamed G84 AGP.
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    The G84 is set to replace Geforce 7600 GS cards and these cards sell for around €100, which is not bad deal for an AGP card.

    The AGP version is possible due to the fact that G84 chips are pin-to-pin compatible with Geforce 6600 and 7600, so there were no modifications required in order that AGP market gets its DirectX 10 card.
    http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37790

    Nvidia prepares to shrink G80 to make a G90
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    There are two challenges going down to 80 or 65 nanometres from the current 90. An optical shrink from 90 to 80 nanometre doesn't allow much space for clock speed increases. You cannot go much higher than 700+ MHz depending on the chip marchitecture.
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    Going down to 65 nanometre is not an optical shrink and presents a major engineering challenge. That’s why it took AMD ages to go from 90 nanometre CPUs to 65. And graphics chips are even more challenging to shrink. Nvidia will go 65 nanometre with G78 and if this goes well it will probably try to move all its chip to 65nm in order to make more money per wafer.

    If Nvidia makes G80 smaller there may also be just enough space for 512Mbit controller. If all goes as planned, the chip is scheduled for second part of 2007.
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    http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37791


    Celkovo nvidia ruluje, ATi nejak nestiha, myslim ze prichadzaju o dost $. To nie je len o DX10, ale aj o najvykonnejsej grafike, navyse taka GTS vobec nie je draha vzhladom na to, aky vykon ponuka. A niekde som videl spravu ze nvidia ich uz predala 400 000. A ti ludia, co si teraz kupili nvidiu, si tak skoro uz novu grafiku nekupia...
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    Tiez mam pocit, ze ATI to pohnojilo, ved opat odlozili prichod r600 na maj, co je takmer 10 mesiacov po prichode 8800gtx & gts. A zatial co nVidia bude mat v maji vyladenu technologiu vyroby plus vyladene drivere, ATI pridu s prvymi reviziami a s tym suvisiacimi pripadnymi problemami. Ja osobne uz kaslem na cakanie, beriem nVidiu. AMD ma dost sklamalo vratane ATI oddelenia.

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    Citace Původně odeslal HotGod Zobrazit příspěvek
    Tiez mam pocit, ze ATI to pohnojilo, ved opat odlozili prichod r600 na maj, co je takmer 10 mesiacov po prichode 8800gtx & gts. A zatial co nVidia bude mat v maji vyladenu technologiu vyroby plus vyladene drivere, ATI pridu s prvymi reviziami a s tym suvisiacimi pripadnymi problemami. Ja osobne uz kaslem na cakanie, beriem nVidiu. AMD ma dost sklamalo vratane ATI oddelenia.
    No ATi, v tom co psal W1zzard, pise, ze chteji vydat plne odladenou a konkurenceschopnou DX10 grafiku. Tak verim, ze je to i v podobe driveru. Musim totiz priznat, ze XP drivery k 8800 byly hodne dlouho nedodelane a Vista drivery jsou jeste ted hodne problemove.
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    NVIDIA Releases World's First Interactive DirectX 10 Application for Consumers

    NVIDIA Corporation has released the world’s first interactive Microsoft DirectX 10 application in the form of the NVIDIA Cascades demo. The NVIDIA Cascades demo will allow consumers with NVIDIA GeForce 8-series graphics cards and Windows Vista to experience stunning Direct X 10 graphics features on their computers for the first time. The NVIDIA Cascades demo is available here.
    http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4693
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Citace Původně odeslal Masster Zobrazit příspěvek
    NVIDIA Releases World's First Interactive DirectX 10 Application for Consumers



    http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4693

    to uz je trochu starsi http://cdr.cz/a/2061

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    Citace Původně odeslal Bob van Sikorski Zobrazit příspěvek
    to uz je trochu starsi http://cdr.cz/a/2061
    Nevidim to tu nikde a mirne spatny odkaz.

    http://cdr.cz/a/20610
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    New NVIDIA Windows Vista Beta driver coming soon

    New Features

    - GeForce 7 series SLI support
    - GeForce 6 series SLI support
    - GeForce 7950 GX2 support (both GPUs are now operational)

    Key Bug Fixes

    - Improved OpenGL performance
    - Improved NVIDIA SLI performance at high resolutions
    - Brief corruption (flickering, boxes) on screen at Windows Vista login, CTR-ALT-DEL (Task Manager), or other function that requires Vista User Account Control
    - Playback issues when playing TV/DVD/video in Media Center with Aero enabled
    - Outputting via TV-Out shows only a black and white display
    - HDTV output does not keep HDTV resolution after restart
    - Adjusting Video Color settings from the NVIDIA Control Panel are not getting applied.
    - Change Flat Panel Scaling page does not correctly work in the NVIDIA Control Panel.
    - Brightness, Contrast and Gamma values remain the same in Adjust Desktop Color settings once closing and opening the NVIDIA Control Panel.
    -Corruption on DVI monitor while going to hibernation from standby
    - Call of Duty 2 has no performance gain when SLI is enabled
    - Madden NFL 07 while playing the screen will freeze, but the game will continue to run and you hear the in-game sounds.
    - General application compatibility fixes
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    NVIDIA to Launch GeForce 8600 Series on April 17th

    NVIDIA is set to launch mainstream 8600GTS (G84-400) and 8600GT (G84-300) as well as 8500GT (G86-300) on 17th of April. GeForce 8600GTS and 8600GT will have 256MB GDDR3 memories onboard and sports 128-bit memory interface but no HDMI yet. GeForce 8600GTS is meant to replace 7950GT and 7900GS while 8600GT to replace 7600GT and 8500GT to replace 7600GS.

    8600GTS will be clocked at 700MHz core / 2GHz memory and comes with dual D-DVI, HDTV, HDCP but requires external power. 8600GTS will be priced between US$199-$249. Another mainstream model, the 8600GT will be clocked at 600MHz core / 1.4GHz memory and has 2 variants; one with HDCP (G84-300) and the other without (G84-305). This model doesn't requires an external power. 8600GT will be priced between US$149-$169.

    The last model meant for budget segment is actually a G84 core but downgraded to meet the value segment pricing structure. The 8500GT will be clocked at 450MHz core / 800MHz 256MB DDR2 memory and comes in 2 variants; one with HDCP (G86-300) and the other without HDCP (G86-305). 8500GT will be priced between US$79 to US$99. Towards end of April, we can expect NVIDIA to release GeForce 8300GS for the budget market to replace 7300 series.
    http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4723
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    NVIDIA Plans For GeForce 8800 Ultra?

    w0mbat in our forums has found the following information in the latest Forceware drivers for Vista :

    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0191.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX"
    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0193.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS"
    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0194.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra"
    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_019E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0400.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0402.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT"
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0421.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT"
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0422.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS"
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0423.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GS"

    It seems that NVIDIA is planning for a higher clocked GeForce 8800 Ultra and a cheaper GeForce 8400GS card.
    http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4727
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Nemate nejake informace ohledne pripravovane 8900ky (nebo jak se ma jmenovat ta karta, kterou chce nvidia odpovedet na R600ku)? Zajima me samozrejme odhadovane datum uvedeni a features, jelikoz bych si nerad koupil 8800ku, a pak za mesic mlatil hlavou do zdi...
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    Podle mých informací je už 80nm verze G80 už hotová, ale nemám specifikace (tedy jesli jde pouze o shrink G80 pro levnější výrobu, nebo jestli má vyšší frekvence, nebo i nějaké změny v jádře). Předpokládám, že půjde o lehce přetaktovanou G80.

    80nm R600 512MB GDDR3 vs. 90nm G80 768MB GDDR3
    80nm R600 1024MB GDDR4 vs. 80nm G8? 768MB GDDR?
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    Citace Původně odeslal no-X Zobrazit příspěvek
    Podle mých informací je už 80nm verze G80 už hotová, ale nemám specifikace (tedy jesli jde pouze o shrink G80 pro levnější výrobu, nebo jestli má vyšší frekvence, nebo i nějaké změny v jádře). Předpokládám, že půjde o lehce přetaktovanou G80.

    80nm R600 512MB GDDR3 vs. 90nm G80 768MB GDDR3
    80nm R600 1024MB GDDR4 vs. 80nm G8? 768MB GDDR?
    Pokud by ten shrink znamenal i snizeni teploty GPU, vyplatilo by se pockat. Tak ted uz nezbyva nez jen doufat, ze ATI vyda R600ku co nejdriv a veci se pohnou spravnym smerem...
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    GeForce 8800 Ultra to Come Out on April 17

    GeForce 8800 Ultra will really be Nvidia’s response to ATI R600, however the specifications of the new cards haven’t been revealed yet. Most sources, however, believe that GeForce 8800 Ultra will run at higher clock speed than GeForce 8800 GTX and may feature GDDR-4 instead of GDDR-3 memory onboard with the corresponding frequency increase. However, even today Foxconn Company is already offering an overclocked GeForce 8800 GTX with GDDR-3 memory working at 2100MHz frequency. We dare suppose that they will select fast memory like GDDR-3 for the new GeForce 8800 Ultra as well.
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d...316211223.html
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Citace Původně odeslal no-X Zobrazit příspěvek
    Podle mých informací je už 80nm verze G80 už hotová, ale nemám specifikace (tedy jesli jde pouze o shrink G80 pro levnější výrobu, nebo jestli má vyšší frekvence, nebo i nějaké změny v jádře). Předpokládám, že půjde o lehce přetaktovanou G80.

    80nm R600 512MB GDDR3 vs. 90nm G80 768MB GDDR3
    80nm R600 1024MB GDDR4 vs. 80nm G8? 768MB GDDR?
    80nm je half node ...
    taktovací potenciál by G80 v 80nm mala relatívne veľký, ale či je to naozaj za potreby pre nVidiu

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    GeForce 8800 Ultra To Counter R600 In May
    During the NVIDIA's Ngagement meeting today, they have briefed their partners on the upcoming GeForce 8800 Ultra cards to coincide with ATi R600 in May. NVIDIA is pretty confident that GeForce 8800 Ultra can beat Radeon X2900 XTX. We have revealed before that R600 is just performing pretty close to 8800 GTX on a set of early drivers so we will see how much performance can ATi engineers tweak out of the R600 launch drivers
    http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4865

    55nm NVIDIA GPUs In H2 2007
    NVIDIA is very likely to be the first customer to introduce production on TSMC 55nm half node geometry. Given its long established ties with TSMC, NVIDIA started pilot runs on 55nm in early 2007 and samples should be available for customers in the second half of 2007. NVIDIA should introduce 55nm in volume production in the first quarter of 2008. AMD has also started pilot runs on 55nm. Chips fabricated on 55nm are to hit the market in early 2008.
    http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4869
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    GeForce 8800 Ultra To Counter R600 In May
    During the NVIDIA's Ngagement meeting today, they have briefed their partners on the upcoming GeForce 8800 Ultra cards to coincide with ATi R600 in May. NVIDIA is pretty confident that GeForce 8800 Ultra can beat Radeon X2900 XTX. We have revealed before that R600 is just performing pretty close to 8800 GTX on a set of early drivers so we will see how much performance can ATi engineers tweak out of the R600 launch drivers
    http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4865

    55nm NVIDIA GPUs In H2 2007
    NVIDIA is very likely to be the first customer to introduce production on TSMC 55nm half node geometry. Given its long established ties with TSMC, NVIDIA started pilot runs on 55nm in early 2007 and samples should be available for customers in the second half of 2007. NVIDIA should introduce 55nm in volume production in the first quarter of 2008. AMD has also started pilot runs on 55nm. Chips fabricated on 55nm are to hit the market in early 2008.
    http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4869
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Standardní Re: G80 - G90 a dalsi novinky

    Citace Původně odeslal INQ
    8800Ultra specifications out:

    Nvidias ultimate flagship will be more than you ever expected.
    This $999 card comes with 3 graphic chips. There will be two overclocked 80nm G80 chips with 650mhz(1.7GHz shaderclock), each of them can use 1.5GB GDDR4 with the awesome clock of 3.2GHz. The third chip will be a small G84 chip with 256MB GDDR3 memory, which is used for game physics in Nvidias new SLI 2.0.

    The card uses an exclusive an special cooling solution and works very quiet although the power consumption establishs a new record.

    Release will be in late May to crush Atis new R600 chip.

    More information, pictures and maybe benchmarks soon!
    http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=142007
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    No mozna by bylo dobre sem nepostovat aprilove newsky.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Market of Graphics Adapters Collapses in Q1 2007

    According to Jon Peddie Research, 78.8 million graphics adapters were shipped in Q1 2007, which is a 5.5% drop sequentially, but a 5.3% gain annually.

    Intel remained the largest supplier of graphics adapters, however, even though its overall market share improved, its overall sales declined by about 2% - 3%. Nvidia’s shipments fell 5.7%, but its market share remained flat. Advanced Micro Devices not only faced 1.1% market share decline, but also saw its sales dropping by 10.2%.

    Due to decreased sales of integrated graphics adapters for desktops, the rise of add-in-boards shipments and some other factors, Nvidia replaced Intel for first place in desktop market share, JPR claims.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d...502222033.html
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Standardní Re: G80 - G90 a dalsi novinky

    Asi sem to prehledl, ale nikde se mi nedari najit trochu konkretnejsi termin, kdy by mela vyjit G90. NV hlasila neco ve smyslu, ze ji chce vydfat do konce tohoto roku, nevite o tom nekdo neco?
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