No ale ak to bude pravda tak to bude znamenať pre AMD/ATI obrovské fiasko.![]()
No ale ak to bude pravda tak to bude znamenať pre AMD/ATI obrovské fiasko.![]()
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R600XT to compete 8800 GTS only
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=703&Itemid=1ATI said in front of 150+ journalists that R600XT won't be able to compete with Geforce 8800 GTX. The dream is dead and Radeon HD 2900 XT won't be able to catch up with a six month old Geforce 8800 GTX.
ATI said that R600XT, Radeon HD 2900XT is about the performance of 8800 GTS. Radeon HD 2900 XTX won't be launched at mid may and will be delayed to Q3 2007. We already wrote about this here.
The dream that AMD can do something and return as the high end market leader s gone. R600 rails against G80. Congratulations on Nvidia.
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
Yep, osobne sem to cekal uz z navrhu. A proto opet rikam, ATi vi, ze GTXko neporazi a tak se o to ani nesnaziJe to o nabidce a marketingu. Alespon zacne valka cen na kterou tady vetsina lidi ceka...
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Pokud ati nasadi dobrou cenu, pak mi bude gtx za 15000 s dph volna
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Velka skoda pre ATi, v podstate skoro rok nemali cim konkurovat 8800vkam. Nvidia predala celkom dost tychto kariet, navyse za pekne ceny. Nove 8600vky zase maju pomerne prijatelnu cenu (na to aka je to novinka).
AMD navyse nema $ ( http://xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display...424165516.html ). Este aj procaky museli zlacniet.
Ak navyse bude medzi 8800vkou a jej nastupcom taky rozdiel ako medzi gf6 a gf7, tak to ma ati zase co robit.
A co sa tyka toho vyrobneho procesu a problemami s kartou (velke, dlhe, obrovske chladice), tak by sa dalo povedat, ze sa ATi vratilo to, co zazila nvidia s GF FX a prechodom na 0,13um proces, kedy mali tiez problemy s vyrobou (teda, hlavne s ocakavanymi vysokymi freq - a tak aj s vykonom).
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Nic proti ale jak obrovske mnozstvi 88xx se tak proda v highendu?8800GTX stoji 15000kc 1950XT(skoro takova 1950XTX) stoji 6500kc.Vykon +- 67% navrh na def.V 1280x1024+4aa+16af.Cenove dost jinde.Podivej na Stalkera.GTX je na tom skoro stejne jako 1950XTX.Nevidim duvod k panice.Dalsi vec jsou drivery.Za 3-4m mesice muze bejt 30% navrh pro ATI.Az budou full DX 10 hry tak resme kdo je lepsi a kdo potreboval bejt za kazdou cenu prvni.
A 8600?To snad nemyslis vazne.To je tezky fiasko v mainstreamu.![]()
Proti 1950XT bych výkonově a cenou postavil 8800GTS 320 MB, která je sehnatelná už za 7200 Kč a je výkonnější. 8800GTX je výkonem úplně někde jinde.
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But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
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ze by ji uvedli uz 2. kvetna??
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4931
no ale 8800Ultra uz prvního...
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4930
Tak OK, pol roka, ale za ten cas stihli predat tych kariet fakt vela (tusim som to daval uz sem niekde na forum, teraz to neviem najst). Asi tak pred dvoma mesiacmi bola niekde na webe sprava, ze nvidia 8800viek predala uz nejakych snad 40 000 kariet.
8600vka oproti 7600vke nie je omnoho drahsia a ma lepsi vykon. A tiez je to novinka, snad cena este pojde dole.
Uvedomte si ale, kolko nvidia zarobi na jednej 8600vke, ktora ma iba 128bit pamate a teda jednoduche a lacne PCB a kolko ATi na jednej 1950tke, ktora je 256bit. A kolko na 8800vke, ktora ma predsa len o dost vyssiu cenu ale zase iba 384bit pamate a jednoduchsie PCB ako x2900, ktora ma 512bit.
Ano, pre nas su dobre nizke ceny, ale pride mi to ako AMD nema konkurenta k core2, tak musi mat nizke ceny, tak to iste musi mat ati, pretoze doteraz nemali konkurenta k 8800vke.
A dalsia vec - nez vyjdu nejake skutocne DX10 hry, tak to snad uz bude za dverami dalsia generacia kariet.
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tak prvni cenove nastrely nevypadaj zle si myslim
http://zbozi.seznam.cz/?q=2900XT
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NDA na Radeon HD 2900 XT je do 14. kvetna, na technologie a parametry HD 2600/2400 serie pak take, stejne jako info o novych procesorech AMD. Jen benchmarky HD 2600/2400 budou moct byt zverejneny az nekdy v cervnu, protoze AMD nechce, aby to bylo drive, nez budou vyrobci schopni dodavat dostatecne mnozstvi karet distributorum.
EDIT: Fuad nebyl na predstaveni pozvan, takze tolik asi k Fudzille, ten Sven Olsen z DailyTechu to radsi hodil do sekce Blog, ale asi tam kazdy par podezrelych veci vidite.
Naposledy upravil Mirek; 27.04.2007 v 17:22.
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http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...derasc-75.htmlWhile I am required to follow the NDA, the stuff up on Daily Tech today is almost worthless. Yes Anandtech was present in Tunisia (signing Non-disclosure agreements like the Inquirer), why they are posting this stuff is beyond me because their numbers are off. They must be only using the XP drivers and OS because the numbers in CF vs the GTX are very much different. So until I can officially comment on the architecture and the performance.. hold all of this as useless until the rest of the world writes about it.
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http://dailytech.com/DailyTech+Diges...rticle7079.htmI won't pretend that the tests we did were exhaustive. Since DailyTech does not sign embargos, we sort of get what we can take when it comes to publishing early tests. Scott Wasson, Ryszard Sommefeldt and Anand Shimpi are true experts when it comes to GPU performance, and if you have any reservations about our preliminary examinations, certainly wait for their benchmarks.
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http://r800.blogspot.com/2007/04/radeon-hd-2900xt.html
ty specifikace... jak to říct... jsou v jistých ohledech zjednodušeny, takže srovnávání některých čísel např. s R580 by bylo jako srovnávání jablek a hrušek...
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Cena Asus se také očekává okolo 10000
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But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
tie testy sú rovnako výpovedné ako tie kde je ATI pomalšia...![]()
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ATi DX10 Global Illumination demo na R600
R600 má 1024bit Ring-Bus a 512bit paměťové rozhraní
http://www.hardspell.com/english/doc...sp?news_id=476
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