ATi R600

[THX]

R600 looking shaky for late February launch

R600 is pretty much done. We got confirmation that the chips are just fine and there are no hardware errors or respins necessary.
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AMD simply won’t let ATI release the new chip without being able to ship it in volumes, our sources claim. That is the whole story and end of Q1 is the targeted date now.
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R600 is a 512Mbit chip at 80 nanometre.

http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36799

[Comby]

February 28th is the day where R600 card samples will be available to manufacturers and press while AMD continues working hard to launch R600 @ CeBIT. There are two versions; a 12" for OEMs and a 9" for the end users. No info as yet on their differences. According to INQ, AMD won’t let ATI release the new chip without being able to ship it in volumes so that lead to some delay.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=120679

[no-X]

Summary of what someone posted at MuroBBS (Finnish hardware site's board)

He was eating dinner/lunch/something with W. Chen, Vice President of Strategic Sales, ex-ATI now AMD's graphics department.
There's 2 versions (like XT/XTX), both equipped with 1GB mem
Will be released in February
Claims that even high quality 430W PSU won't do it.
Faster than 8800GTX
512bit Membus
"Sorry, I can't comment" for the VR-Zone pic, with some laugh on it.
Radeon name will be kept


What makes me personally doubt it is the PSU claim, and some of it was "common knowledge" already anyway.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=543

Hmm?

[Reno]

OMG

http://pc.bazos.sk/inzerat/170149/X2800-XTX-.php

[Masster]

Co chces slyset? Je to fake, kdybys videl ten screen ve vetsi velikosti, tak poznas, ze je upraveny, pokud se nepletu tak z X1950XTX.

btw.
R600 will have a big air cooler

WE LEARNED that upcoming R600 still uses an air cooler. It can do the job without the aid of water.

We know that DAAMIT has been experimenting with Air – water cooler hybrid. This is even more efficient and includes a small pump on the graphics card heatsink.

It is a nice concept but the stock version of R600 will come out with an air cooler.

The card is still on schedule for Q1, probably March launch time, Cebitish. The samples are ready and press kit should be ready in late February.

Of course it is a dual-slot cooler as you really need a lot of fan power to cool the beast. But it will be quiet, as quiet as G80's

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37014

Neplete se jim to uz chlapcum? Ja myslel, ze s air-water hybridnim chlazenim mela experimentovat nVidia...

[Masster]

ATI R600 is Radeon X2x00 series

We can now share with you that the engineering teams at AMD created four different PCBs (Printed Circuit Boards) for the R600 GPU. These each target a different set of customers. The leaked drivers and some marketing documents already call for this generation to be called X2000 series, with devices labelled X2200 and X2400 appearing on the map.

So, the T-bone is full a 12 inches long (30cm). This baby is dubbed XTX, and will feature-top-of-the-line, 1GB GDDR-4 memory from Samsung. You can count on 16 memory chips yielding 1GB of video memory connected to the GPU via 512-bit external bus. Memory chips could do 2.4GHz clock (1.2GHz physical), yielding in yet unseen bandwidth of 153.6 GB/s, dwarfing 8800GTX and its 86.4 GB/s. However, this clock is not guaranteed - not everything is in the bandwidth, but rather in the way you use it.

Second variant is in the prime rib categoryL more compact its big T-bone brother, on a size level with R580 (X1950XTX) and G80GTS (8800GTS) boards. We're talking about "X2x00 XT", which is pretty much the same thing as XTX, featuring only a speed downgrade. The speed downgrade enabled DAAMIT to put a more compact PCB, nine inches in length but still featuring the same amount of GDDR-4 memory. Depending on the price and availability of GDDR-4, this one will be available in 512MB variant as well. You know, X1900XT 512/256MB, only one GPU generation ahead.

The third one, let's call it sirloin steak, is sort of X1800XL style ("X2x00XL"). We're talking about still GDDR-4 memory, but a new 9-inch PCB. Nope, this is not a downgraded PCB from the already-mentioned XT part, we're talking about a board which will feature "normal" clocks and be available for OEMs to do wonderous display output things with. Multimedia addicts will be happy with the whole array of possibilities, thanks to the fact that ATI killed its decade old ViVo chip. Single-slot ahoy.

Fourth class, mignon filet, is dubbed X2000GT, and this is a product which will feature most of the non-100% QA chips around. The PCB is once again new and does not derive from above mentioned three models - but still inside the 9 inches of length (three different 9-inch versions, guys really like the number). This baby was codenamed UFO, and had a very difficult birth: it was introduced, then shafted, then re-introduced into the pipe again – and this is the R600 chip combined with cheap and massively available GDDR-3 memory. This will be the ground for GPGPU boards as well, since AMD plans for both 1GB and 2GB versions of the boards. 2GB versions are of course, reserved for the high-end, professional market.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37040

[Haste]

Jestli nastavi pouzitelnou cenu, tak uz jenom cekam na WB a kupuju 12ti palcovou mrchu. Tech 150GB/s me laka

[no-X]

Další porce...

It seems that today some more info has surfaced.

R600 will be launched at Cebit. The press will get to see the R600 at the end of February. One week after the Cebit the R600 will be available for everyone to buy. Claims are that the R600 is 5 to 10% faster in DX10 applications than the G80. Note the DX10 claim and no mention of DX9 performance compared to G80.

Price will be $599 and only the 9" PCB version will be out in retail channels. The 12" PCB version will be OEM only.

Scheduled for a launch at the end of April is RV630 as a replacement of the X1950Pro. nV will launch the 8600GTS (G84) one month earlier in March as a replacement of the 7900GS and 7950GT. A few weeks later, mid-April, nV will release the 8600GT with/without HDMI / with HDCP, as a replacement of the 7600GT.

In the lower end AMD will introduce the RV610. First samples have arrived from the factory and they are looking good. RV610 will be the replacement of the X1650 series. Around that time nV will also release 8500GT HDMI (G86 GDDR3) in versions with and without HDCP (G86 DDR2). At the end of April they will also release 8300GS (G86 DDR2) as a replacement of the 7600GS/7300GT.

There you have it.

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(AMD R600系列产品规格及价格)
名称 核心/显存频率 显存类型 显存位宽 显存容量 流处理器数量 工艺 价格(美元)
X2800XTX2 575/2000 GD4 256Bit 512*2 96*2 80 599$
(双核心)
X2800XTX 750/2200 GD4 512Bit 1GB 128 80 599$
X2800XTX 750/2200 GD4 512Bit 512MB 128 80 549$
X2800XT 600/1800 GD3 512Bit 512MB 128 80 499$
X2800XL 600/1800 GD3 512Bit 512MB 96 80 399$
X2800GT 650/1800 GD3 256Bit 512MB 96 80 349$
X2800GTO 600/1400 GD3 256Bit 256MB 96 80 299$
X2600XT 650/1600 GD3 128Bit 256MB 64 80 199$
X2600Pro 550/1400 GD3 128Bit 256MB 64 80 149$
X2300XT 650/1400 GD3 128Bit 256MB 32 80 99$
X2300Pro 500/1400 GD3 128Bit 128/256MB 32 80 69/79$
X2300LE 500/800 GD2 128Bit 128MB 32 80 59$

http://itbbs.pconline.com.cn/topic.j...92&topicPage=2

[Masster]

Claims are that the R600 is 5 to 10% faster in DX10 applications than the G80

Pokud mysli az tuhle, tak by to mohlo naznacovat, ze G80 se opravdu povedla.

X2800XTX2 575/2000 GD4 256Bit 512*2 96*2 80 599$

Kazdopadne 2xGPU high-end kartu hned pri launchi jsem teda necekal.

[no-X]

Pokud jsou ty údaje (v druhé citaci) pravdivé, tak si myslím, že je to vytažený z nějaký roadmapy, tzn. plány na celý H1/07. IMHO teď vyjde jen R600 v cca dvou provedeních a za měsíc/dva na to se objeví další čipy. To duální monstrum nebude podle mě vydané dřív než v květnu (jestli vůbec) jako reakce na případnou G81, než bude k dispozici 65nm R650/R680 či něco takového...

[Haste]

Jestli je pravda to o 5-10%, potom je to celkem krize, protoze by to neznacovalo, ze R600(chip) jako takova je asi stejne rychla jako G80, protoze 5-10% celkem jiste udela bez problemu GDDR4 a 512bit bus. Jestli teda NV vyda nejakou G81 na 80nm(vyssi frekvence) s GDDR4, tak bych to videl na R600 killer. Ale porad tem 5% neverim, prijde mi to na ony specifikace nejak malo...

[no-X]

Těžko říct, co je to za výsledky, nikde není psáno, jaká verze R600 to byla, na jakých frekvencích jela a když k tomu přičteme, že byla testovaná s drivery dostupnými dva měsíce před vydáním hardwaru, tak to nemá valnou vypovídací hodnotu o situaci, která bude někdy na přelomu února/března.

Nevím, proč, ale mám takový subjektivní dojem, že R600 nedostatkem výkonu strádat nebude nVidia uvedla novou levnější verzi GF8800GTS s 320MB, takže to vypadá, jakoby chtěla ještě před uvedením R600 prodat co nejvíce G80. Co ji k tomu vede si každý může domyslet sám.

//edit:

rty Ruby na R600




http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=7729

//edit2: další pozitivní zpráva:

R600 final silicon turns up

We hear that ATI received production silicon over the last couple of days, meaning that barring a showstopper of a bug, things are 'done'.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37155

[crux2005]

podľa VR-Zone je toto chladič pre OEM R600:



- http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=125066

ON, OFF

[no-X]

Koukám, že full-size karty nejsou v OEM segmentu nic neobvyklýho:



... na B3Df se objevil zajímavý názor ohledně toho OEM chladiče a jeho "víčka":

I think it's quite obvious that the open/close thing enables the fan to suck air from either the front or the back of the card. This is made possible because the fan is hanging off the end. In a crossfire configuration, this means that one card can suck air from the front and the other can suck air from the back, thus both boards get unhindered airflow.

[Masster]

More R600, RV610 & RV630 Rumors Surfaced

The latest rumor out there revealed that R600 is 80nm process technology and is entering mass production soon . R600's Z no-AA performance is 2.5x, FP16 blending & filtering performance is 2.7x, FP32 blending & filtering performance is 3.9x, FP16 filtering performance is 8x of R580. R600 final clocks could be at 814MHz and has 64 unified shaders. [This could imply 32 ROPs]. According to the rumor, it seems that low end RV610 will be on 65nm process, Digital PWM, 8 layers PCB, 256MB/128MB 64bit DDR2. For the mainstream RV630, it will be on 65nm process, bi-directional PWM for GPU and uni-directional PWM for memories, support 2x256MB 128bit GDDR4.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4571

[no-X]

[This could imply 32 ROPs]

Stejně jako 16 double-Z ROPs (a la RV530 a Xenos)

[Masster]

R600, R610, R630 Launch Schedule & Availability

ATi has finally provided some updates to their eagerly awaiting partners regarding the schedule of their upcoming DX10 cards. R600 will be launched in CeBIT but cards availability in April and we heard that the official name could be Radeon X2900. As for low-end R610 and mid range R630, they will be launched in April but availability in May.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4572

Sice si ted pripadam jako spamer, ale tohle mi nedalo. Vypada to dost divoce.

[no-X]

A co obrázek?

[THX]

Pripada mi to ako starodavne full length ISA karty, ktore sa uchycovali na oboch stranach. Do workstationov OK, ale do beznych skrin mi to pride fakt kus velke, dost vela skriniek ma dole vpredu disky, tak sa im taka dlha karta nemusi vojst...

[no-X]

To je OEM verze, retail by měla mít jen 9".

[crux2005]

R600 makes Board Partners happy

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37387

aj mne vyčarila táto správa úsmev



podľa vyjadrení ATi nemajú základné* výpočtové jednotky R600 nič spoločné s predchodcami ...

*pod tým nech si každý predstaví čo chce

dnes mám moc dobrú náladu tak ešte ...

... koľko skalárnych jednotiek by mal Xenos keby som sa snažil ich čo najviac napočítať ?
- 240 "SPs"

to je v porovnaní s počtom SPs na R600 pomerne málo ...

a najlepšie budú marketingové vyjadrenia zo strany ATi



AMD sets "Tech Day" dates for R600 launch?

niečo podobné naznačoval aj CJ



http://www.the-inquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37407

Some Nvidia green is about to get smoked as we heard R600 with some software tweaks will actually be faster than we all anticipated.

[no-X]

AMD remains secretive about their R600 but we still managed to dig out a little more information. We can expect to see R600, RV610 and RV630 demos @ CeBIT but no performance tests to be revealed there. The R600 launch is slated for end of March it appears now and there are 3 SKUs; XTX, XT and XL. ATi briefly mentioned to their partners a 2nd generation Unified Shader Structure and a new hardware Crossfire for R600 family which can be bridgeless yet faster. We are not sure how does this new HW CF work out yet. The retail card is half an inch longer at 9.5" and the OEM/SI version remains the same at 12". It comes with 512-bit memory bus and 1GB DDR4 at more than 2GHz frequency. Core clock remains a mystery as yet.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4595

[no-X]

We have gotten some concrete information on the RV610 and RV630. The card samples will start appear in March and the launch slated for April timeframe. There will be 3 variants of RV630 supporting DDR2, DDR3 or DDR4. For low-end RV610, it will be built on 65nm process and there are 2 variants; RV610LE supporting DDR2 and RV610PRO supporting DDR3. Memory clock for RV610LE stood at 400Mhz while RV610PRO is at 700MHz.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4596

[Masster]

R600 Uber edition confirmed

WE CAN now divulge details of the third of the four R600 versions ATI is preparing for consumers. One is DDR3, one is DDR4 - the long one - and the third one is now known as the Uber edition.
R600 Uber edition will end up as the fastest R600-based card of the first batch on the shelves. The key secret is a water cooler. We heard that two companies are competing to make the cooler. One is Aavid , which we have already seen on many graphic cards and the second is Denmark-based Asetek.

We hear that the water cooler has both water pump and the reservoir on the radiator. So the card will look similar to the other cards, just with bigger radiator, powered with fan, and a reservoir.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37543


ATi R600XTX/XT/XL Series Unveiled

VR-Zone has learned about some new details on 80nm R600 today and there will be 2 SKUs at launch; XTX and XT. There will be 2 versions of R600XTX; one is for OEM/SI and the other for retail. Both feature 1GB DDR4 memories on board but the OEM version is 12.4" long to be exact and the retail is 9.5" long. The above picture shows a 12.4" OEM version. The power consumption of the card is huge at 270W for 12" version and 240W for 9.5" version. As for R600XT, it will have 512MB of GDDR3 memories onboard, 9.5" long and consumes 240W of power. Lastly, there is a cheaper R600XL SKU to be launched at a later date.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4622

ATi R600 Water-Cooled & FireStream Editions

Also ATI is preparing for a GPGPU product, the FireStream/Stream Processor board with no less than 4GB of local video memory. The design is a variant of its upcoming top-end 12-inch design. This board will feature only one DVI connector.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4627

[THX]

Upcoming launch of R600 helps ease IC substrate oversupply

The upcoming dual-branded AMD-ATI graphics chip, the R600, which is made on 80nm, is helping ease the oversupply of IC substrates, according to a Chinese-language Commercial Times report, which noted that the chip is expected to be officially announced on either March 8 or 9.

Objavilo sa to na elitebastards,
original: http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20070208PB200.html