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    Standardní NVIDIA - Biosy a flashovani

    Co vsechno budete potrebovat:

    1. NVIDIA grafickou kartu (Fx serie a vyssi)
    2. nvFLASH nebo WFFlash
    3. bootovaci disketu
    4. NVIDIA Bios Editor (dale uz jen NiBiTor, drive OmniExtremeEdit)
    5. VGABIOS utility

    Pri pripadne nefunkcnosti linku se podivejte na www.mvktech.net Tam se take nachazi spousta revizi biosu vsech znacek.

    Uprava biosu (nefunguje u Asus karet z FX serie):

    1. Vezmete bootovaci disketu, nakopirujte na ni flashovaci utilitu vasi volby a nabootujte do DOSu. Pokud jste pouzili nvFLASH, dalsi postup je nasledujici:

    A:\NVFLASH.exe -b zaloha.rom (pro zalohu biosu)

    Pri pouziti WFFlash:

    A:\WFFLASH.exe -s (pro zalohu vaseho biosu)

    Pote muzete opet nabootovat do Windows

    2. Nyni otevrete bios v NiBiToru a muzete upravit bios dle sve libosti, presneji, muzete upravit :
    - detaily o biosu a jeho verzi
    - frekvenci karty v 2D/3D modu
    - voltaz karty v 2D/3D modu
    - casovani pameti (doporucuji jen opravdu tem, kteri vedi co delaji)

    Az budete se svymi upravami spokojeni, muzete svuj "novy" bios ulozit (vas puvodni bios si radeji nechte, je mozne, ze ho v pripade problemu budete jeste potrebovat)

    3. Nyni vam doporucuji si bios jeste pred tim, nez ho flashnete zpet na svoji kartu vyzkouset pomoci VGABIOS utility (overi kompatibilitu s vasi kartou)

    4. A ted prijde ta "nejtezsi" cast. Pripravte si opet bootovaci disketu, nahrajte na ni vami upraveny bios a nabootujte do DOSu. Pri pouziti WFFlash utility je postup nasledujici:
    - A:\WFFLASH.exe jmenosouboru.rom (pro zapsani biosu na kartu)

    pokud nefunguje zkuste
    - A:\WFFLASH.exe NM jmenosouboru.rom

    Pri pouziti nvFLASH utility:
    - A:\NVFLASH.exe -p -u -f jmenosouboru.rom

    Pokud se objevi chybova hlaska, muzete pouzit, i kdyz se to nedoporucuje
    - A:\NVFLASH.exe -5 -f jmenosouboru.rom

    Pokud se chybovych hlasek objevi vice
    - A:\NVFLASH.exe -5 -6 -f jmenosouboru.rom

    Pokud se objevi chybova hlaska o protekci proti prepsani, muzete ji odebra prikazem
    - A:\NVFLASH.exe -r


    Vysvetleni nekterych prikazu:

    -f (jmenosouboru) pouziva s k flashnuti noveho biosu, musi byt pred nazvem biosu a musi obsahovat priponu .rom .bin .bios atd.

    -b (jmenosouboru) pouziva se na zalohu biosu, ktery je v te chvili na karte

    -y restartovat system po provedeni flashe, nedoporucuju

    -a vypis vsech grafickych karet NVIDIA nalezene v systemu

    -r pro odebrani ochrany proti prepsani

    -n k obejiti PCI biosu, predpokladam ze takhle si neflashnete PCI grafiku

    Za kazdych okolnosti si zazalohujte svuj bios! Pokud flash selze, muzete vzdycky pouzit "flash na slepo" nebo PCI grafiku


    Flash na slepo

    Kdyz se vam nepodari flash nebo dojde behem flashovani k nechtemu restartu atd., muzete spustit PC, ale nic neuvidite,
    nechte disketu v mechanice a nechte system nabootovat z diskety, pote muzete poslepu zadat prikazy a doufat, ze se
    neprepisete Muzete si praci take ulehcit tim, ze si udelate druhou bootovaci disketu s vasim originalnim biosem a
    umistite na ni autoexec.bat do ktereho pridate prikaz pro flash, napr. pri pouziti utility WFFLASH.exe by pridana
    radka do autoexecu vypadala nasledovne WFFLASH.exe NM jmenosouboru.bin

    Nezapomente, ze oc4um nenese zadnou odpovednost za zpusobene skody, vsechno provadite na vlastni riziko !!


    Berte prosim v potaz, ze tohle neni finalni verze navodu a bude se s vyvojem novych utilit a novych postupu menit

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    sorry ze furt otravujem,pisal si nieco o latencii pameti,pozrel som si ten OEE a otvoril v nom 5900 bios z ten stranky [nie z mojej karty].Je tam takt pameti 2D,3D a memory timming, som LAMA,ako mam teda nastavit tu latenciu? Chcem dat pamete pre zaciatok na 800-850 treba sa bavit aj s memmory timming alebo staci priamo napisat hodnotu 800-850 a pojde to? Som LAME pls help

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    sorry ze furt otravujem,pisal si nieco o latencii pameti,pozrel som si ten OEE a otvoril v nom 5900 bios z ten stranky [nie z mojej karty].Je tam takt pameti 2D,3D a memory timming, som LAMA,ako mam teda nastavit tu latenciu? Chcem dat pamete pre zaciatok na 800-850 treba sa bavit aj s memmory timming alebo staci priamo napisat hodnotu 800-850 a pojde to? Som LAME pls help
    Mrkni se na tohle, je to bohuzel zatim jedina vec, co se tyka casovani pameti co jsem nasel, snad ti to pomuze. V OEE si dej tools a hex view a mel by si to najit, jestli se na to porad citis


    Nearer the end of the bios file is another table with the basic memory latencies, made up of eight 8 bit binary words. Standard values set for a 5900nu are "07 00 0F 43" and for both 5900u and 5950u are "07 03 0F 43". And hard trials have shown that the optimum for improved performance with good stability is got by reducing the 43 to 40. The change must be made to each of the eight binary words in the table.

    And for many cards, just changing "07 03 0F 43" or "07 00 0F 43" to "07 00 0F 40" will provide even more perfomance, but may require slightly less overclocking of memory for good stability.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    a jak si teda Ty docielil tvoj OC na FXke ? Tymto systemom ?

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    a jak si teda Ty docielil tvoj OC na FXke ? Tymto systemom ?
    Ja sem tam flashnul bios z 5950Ultra, ale tobe to nedoporucuji, za prve mam 5900NU a za druhe to bylo v dobe kdy byla uprava biosu u FX serie v plenkach, ted uz existuji sofistikovanejsi zpusoby, OEE
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Na grafiku vid popis som pustil OmniExtremeEdit a zistil som, ze do gpu 1.5V nepustim, aspon nie cez tento editor. Co sa stane, ak zmenim bios v nejakom inom editore tak, ze mu natvrdo nastavim 1.5V? Da sa to vobec?
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    Pokud vim, tak zadny jiny/lepsi editor BIOSu neni.
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    Na grafiku vid popis som pustil OmniExtremeEdit a zistil som, ze do gpu 1.5V nepustim, aspon nie cez tento editor. Co sa stane, ak zmenim bios v nejakom inom editore tak, ze mu natvrdo nastavim 1.5V? Da sa to vobec?
    On jiny editor neexistuje Jelikoz mas 5900XT tak mas uz jen jedinou moznost, v OEE si dej Tools a Hex view a poradne si precti tohle (ale uvidis, ze to neni zrovna jednoduche):

    GPU VOLTS.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Closely located to the three speed tables, is another Table of seven 2 Bit values for controlling GPU Volts, structured as follows,

    07 78 04 82 05 8C 06

    The purpose of this table is to set the GPU volts during 2D, Throttling and 3D modes. In simple terms, the first two bit value represents the max number of table options, and the follow on three 4 bit words show the actual options that are set for this bios. However note that the first two bits of each 4 bit word is only an indicator, and has no functional purpose other than it indicates the volts expected (found by, converting to decimal/100). The last two bits of each 4 bit word are the important ones, because they set the GPU volts for the various modes of the card.

    Using above example shows,

    (hex 78.)/100 or 120/100 = 1.2 = 04 option.
    (hex 82)/100 or 130/100 = 1.3 = 05 option.
    (hex 8C)/100 or 140/100 = 1.4 = 06 option.

    This shows that GPU volts in 2D as set by option 04 is 1.2V, and in Throttling mode as set by option 05 is 1.3V and finally 3D as set by option 06 is 1.4V. You can however interchange any of the 4 bit values, and thus set 2D GPU volts at 1.4V if desired.

    There is a seventh option, indicated by the "07" at the start of the table, which is needed by a 5950u, where it sets the GPU volts at 1.5V in order that it can run at higher speeds. And when present is normally represented by "96 07" in the 3D position of the table. And, although not normally used in a 5900nu or 5900u bios, there is no reason why either of these can't have the GPU volts set to give the same 1.5v of a 5950u.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    ide o to ze chcem zdvihnut iba pameti,jadro grafiky mi uz bezi na 476 Mhz bez problemov.Chcem uz iba zdvihnut pamete a budem spokojny

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    ide o to ze chcem zdvihnut iba pameti,jadro grafiky mi uz bezi na 476 Mhz bez problemov.Chcem uz iba zdvihnut pamete a budem spokojny
    No vzdyt to co jsem ti psal by tem pametem pomohlo, snizis jim casovani a pujdou taktovat vys
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    takze nabootoval som do DOSu, napisal nvflash.exe -b zaloha alebo aj nvflash.exe -b zaloha.rom a vypisalo mi toto ,,load error: no DPMI - get csdpmi*b.zip WTF

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    takze nabootoval som do DOSu, napisal nvflash.exe -b zaloha alebo aj nvflash.exe -b zaloha.rom a vypisalo mi toto ,,load error: no DPMI - get csdpmi*b.zip WTF
    Jakou verzi nvFlash si zkousel? Zkus jinou verzi nebo zkus WFFlash, kdyz ani to nepujde, tak napis, neco vymyslime
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Takze skusal som nvflash najnovsi 5.08 ale aj 4.42 a pise stale to iste. Vyskusal som wfflash ale s danym parametrom -s mi pise ze je WRONG parameter-no aspon naslo FX5900 nie vsak typ XT ale to mozno nie je chyba. skusim este ine prikazy

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    este mam otazku,musi byt wfflash alebo nvflash na tej bootovacej diskete? lebo ja som nabootoval z diskety ale flashak som mal na disku a z disku som potom robil,ale aj ked som nakopiroval ten subor na disketu ani tak to neslo. Vadi teda ze to robim z disku ?

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    este mam otazku,musi byt wfflash alebo nvflash na tej bootovacej diskete? lebo ja som nabootoval z diskety ale flashak som mal na disku a z disku som potom robil,ale aj ked som nakopiroval ten subor na disketu ani tak to neslo. Vadi teda ze to robim z disku ?
    Nech nvFlash nvFlashem a stahni si tohle http://www.3dcht4u.de/3dc/kfd53t5fes...ltra_flash.zip, spust dumpbios.exe, tohle by ti melo zazalohovat bios primo z windows.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    no bios mi to zalohovalo ale co sa tyka OEE tak neda sa tam vobec nastavit casovanie pameti wtf

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    Neviem moc do toho nevidim ale da sa tam nastavit jedine pamete pri 2D alebo je to pre vsetky rezimy rovnake ? Pri tom 2D ukazuje 350 cize 700 co je zaklad XTciek

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    Casovanie mas v pravo...
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    No jo ale co s tym? To co pisal masster je dost pletuje,je to anglicky a je tam moc cisel-aby som to nedoplietol

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    Najde sa prosím dobrá OCduša ktorá my pošle na môj mail ocguru@post.sk originálny bios z MSI FX5900xt VTD128 svôj som nechtiac odfajčil a potrebujem VIVO tak kto má pls.

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    Najde sa prosím dobrá OCduša ktorá my pošle na môj mail ocguru@post.sk originálny bios z MSI FX5900xt VTD128 svôj som nechtiac odfajčil a potrebujem VIVO tak kto má pls.
    www.mvktech.net
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Z tej stránky som biosy skúšal ale nie sú dobré nefunguje mi ani TV-out
    sú to biosy na 5900xt 128 ale nie VTD128 s VIVO.
    BTW: alebo nemôže mi veľa flashovania natrvalo odpáliť TV-out

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    Z tej stránky som biosy skúšal ale nie sú dobré nefunguje mi ani TV-out
    sú to biosy na 5900xt 128 ale nie VTD128 s VIVO.
    BTW: alebo nemôže mi veľa flashovania natrvalo odpáliť TV-out
    Stahoval jsi, ale jen biosy pro MSI ze?
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Citace Původně odeslal Mr_ORO
    takze nabootoval som do DOSu, napisal nvflash.exe -b zaloha alebo aj nvflash.exe -b zaloha.rom a vypisalo mi toto ,,load error: no DPMI - get csdpmi*b.zip WTF
    to ti pise, protoze nemas na ty diskete kompletni nvflash- to jest se souborem csdpmi.............

    edit/ ja mam problem s prolinkem viz popis, OEE mi [kdyz si stahnu bios primo z karty-] nabidne voltaz 1.1 - 1.4, coz mi je na nic... u biosu z 5950u je voltaz 1.5 coz je to co potrebuju, ale karta mi to nebere, nvflash i wwflash pisou erory- ze tam nesedej nejaky cisla -proste tam asi nepasujou
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    Na svoji MSI FX5900XT jsem zhorsil casovani "07 03 0F 03" a změna na "07 03 0F 40" necekal sem nic moc ale 390/700@520/950 3dmark prosel v pohode jeste musim otestovat jestli to netrotluje v rivatuneru
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