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Téma: odomknut pipky na 7600 ???

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    Standardní odomknut pipky na 7600 ???

    zdarek. mam 7600GS. ked som prinutil Riva Tuner aby podporoval moju kartu nakukol som do sekcie kde sa daju pozriet zapnute pipelines a vertexy. nasiel som tam vypnutu jednu stvoricu pipelines. cize po jej aktivovani by karta mala 16/5 lenze u novych cipov to zevraj nieje mozne zapnut softwarovo tak ako u 6xxx. tak by ma zaujimalo ci to niekto skusal alebo ci nevie aspon nejake info ako je to blokovane
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    Standardní Re: odomknut pipky na 7600 ???

    Nejde odemknout.
    Citace Původně odeslal Unwinder
    I'd say that the chances to get pipeline/quadro mod working (even hardware mode) for new locked chips (i.e. NV41, NV43 A4, NV47 etc) are close to zero.
    As far as I know, the mask defining GPU units locked for enabling (pipes and professional caps unit) is defined by bonding options. You cannot change them unless you're able to unsolder GPU, add missing balls and solder it back. In the previous unlockable chips (NV40, NV43 A2) the mask didn't actually affected the chip's functionality, it was read by BIOS and copied to another (programmable) mask register. This allowed any sofware to override mask and to enable units even if they are locked with hardwired mask defined with bonding options. In new chips NV simply seem to remove this "hole", there is no longer sowtware overridable additional mask register, and the units are masked directly by hardwied mask. And the chances to change it are close to zero.
    I do hope that I'm wrong and NV still left some hole, but I'm afraid that I'm not. They were too hurted with NV40 modding and definitively tried to make future mods impossible. At least if I were NV, I'd use the strategy I described above. And they are not stupid too
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Standardní Re: odomknut pipky na 7600 ???

    Cip 7600 ma stejne fyzicky jen 12pip, ne?
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    Standardní Re: odomknut pipky na 7600 ???

    dik po anglicky toho moc neviem ale pise tam o predchadzajucich generaciach. 7600 ma G73.

    viem ze pisu 12pi ale nezaujalo by ma to keby mi Riva tuner nevypisal ze zo 16 pipelines je zapnutych 12
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    Tak to sem hodim cele, kdyz mi neveris.

    Q. I have a 7800/7900/7600/7300 card and I want to unlock the pipelines like I did on my 6800 LE, how to do this?
    A. You can't.

    Q. Are you sure? Then, why not?
    A. Please see Unwinder's reply here:
    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread....55#post1418355

    btw. Unwinder je tvurce RT, takze kdyz on tvrdi, ze to nejde, tak bych tomu veril
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    no jo. ved sa iba pytam. ten link som necital. kedze DONT UNDERSTAND ENGLIS !
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    Citace Původně odeslal Masster Zobrazit příspěvek
    Tak to sem hodim cele, kdyz mi neveris.

    Q. I have a 7800/7900/7600/7300 card and I want to unlock the pipelines like I did on my 6800 LE, how to do this?
    A. You can't.

    Q. Are you sure? Then, why not?
    A. Please see Unwinder's reply here:
    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread....55#post1418355

    btw. Unwinder je tvurce RT, takze kdyz on tvrdi, ze to nejde, tak bych tomu veril


    z které doby je ten post? a nejde otevřít...
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    z které doby je ten post? a nejde otevřít...
    2.6.2006. Me vcera fungoval a odkazoval presne na to, co je v citaci meho prvniho postu.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    I'd say that the chances to get pipeline/quadro mod working (even hardware mode) for new locked chips (i.e. NV41, NV43 A4, NV47 etc) are close to zero.
    As far as I know, the mask defining GPU units locked for enabling (pipes and professional caps unit) is defined by bonding options. You cannot change them unless you're able to unsolder GPU, add missing balls and solder it back. In the previous unlockable chips (NV40, NV43 A2) the mask didn't actually affected the chip's functionality, it was read by BIOS and copied to another (programmable) mask register. This allowed any sofware to override mask and to enable units even if they are locked with hardwired mask defined with bonding options. In new chips NV simply seem to remove this "hole", there is no longer sowtware overridable additional mask register, and the units are masked directly by hardwied mask. And the chances to change it are close to zero.
    I do hope that I'm wrong and NV still left some hole, but I'm afraid that I'm not. They were too hurted with NV40 modding and definitively tried to make future mods impossible. At least if I were NV, I'd use the strategy I described above. And they are not stupid too
    pro KLB - preklad:
    Rekl bych, ze sance zprovoznit pipeline/quadro na novych uzamcenych cipech (napr. NV41, NV43 A4, NV47 atd) je rovna temer nule. Co mi je znamo, tak maska pro odemceni je definovana zapojenim chipu. Nelze to zmenit, jedine vyjmout chip, dodat chybejici propojeni a zase vratit. Na starsich chipech (NV40, NV43 A2) maska neovlivnovala jeho beh. Zapojeni bylo precteno BIOSem a zkopirovano do jine masky (programovatelne registry). To dovolovalo upravit softwarove masku, i kdyz bylo zapojeni jine. Nove NV chipy jednoduse upravili tuto "skulinku" , takze maska je definovana na hardwarove urovni (zapojenim). A sance to zmenit jsou temer nulove.
    Doufam, ze se milim a ze NV stale nechala nejakou mezeru, ale obavam s, ze ne. Byli hodne poskozeni upravou NV40 a tak se pokusili tomu definitivne zabranit. V neposledni rade, kdybych byl NV tak bych pouzil vyse popsanou strategii. A take nejsou uplne hloupi...

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    Standardní Re: odomknut pipky na 7600 ???

    wlcheckovi dakujem za preklad

    no teda je to pruser. ale snad sa casom nieco prevali. ale aj tak su tam spominane iba starsie jadra. zrejme to vsak plati aj pre G70 G71 G73.
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    Citace Původně odeslal fanik Zobrazit příspěvek


    z které doby je ten post? a nejde otevřít...
    tady je to: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=184707

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