AMD K10 (Barcelona/Agena)

[Masster]

K10 at 2.5 GHz beats QX6800 in multimedia

In Sandra multimedia benchmark Agena / Barcelona K10 2.5 GHz scores over 400.000 it/s (instructions / second) in integer test and about 300.000 it/s in floating point test. Yeah there are some Agena / Barcelona parts runing at 2.5 GHz at press time and we got the chance to share the scores with the world.


Intel's fastest QX6800 Quad core at 3 GHz scores about ~300.000 it/s in integer and ~180.000 it/s in floating point test.

So at least in multimedia stuff and this synthetic benchmark AMD's native quad core is 33.3 percent faster than Intel's fastest Quad core, while in the floating calculations it is a massive 66 percent faster.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=663&Itemid=1

Agena 1.9 GHz overclocks to 3.05 GHz

Yesterday we showed you the world's first screenshot of the Agena AM2+ CPU here. What happens if you try to overclock this lovely part? With the default multiplier set to 9.5, you can raise the FSB all the way up to 320 MHz.


You only need to increase the voltage from 1.273 to 1.297V and you hit over 3 GHz or 3042 MHz to be precise. This is an 1142 MHz overclock or 62 per cent from the stock speed and the machine was stable at all times.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=631&Itemid=40

[mortician]

Otazka je ci sa im to podari vypustit v rozumnej dobe a v rozumnej cene...Trosku sa bojim, ze rozumnej ceny sa ale tak skoro nedockame...Nuz kiez by som sa mylil...
Hadam vsak neostane len pri sluboch a nepredbehne ich zase Intel...Ale tak tesit sa mozeme, aspon aka-taka iskierka nadeje v tabore AMD...

[Zilla]

Myslim, ze tabor AMD jeste porad nejvic trpi tim, ze pro tyto procesory neni poradny chipset (ano, tim presne myslim, ze nvidia je naprd). Kdyby se neco zmenilo v tomhle ohledu, bylo by pro AMD snazsi konkurovat, i kdyz Conroe je ted vykonnostne proste mnohem lepsi...

[mortician]

Myslim, ze tabor AMD jeste porad nejvic trpi tim, ze pro tyto procesory neni poradny chipset (ano, tim presne myslim, ze nvidia je naprd). Kdyby se neco zmenilo v tomhle ohledu, bylo by pro AMD snazsi konkurovat, i kdyz Conroe je ted vykonnostne proste mnohem lepsi...

JJ, myslim, ze v AMD su si toho vedomi a konecne by mohli kus usilia presunut prave tam kde stracaju...Na pole chipsetov...Ked je Intel schopny zabezpecit celkom slusne osadenie pre svoje procesory, mali by sa aj v AMD pohnut niekam smerom k odstraneniu/zmierneniu prave tohto problemu...

[Comby]

K10 at 2.5 GHz beats Intel quad at 3.0+ (Intel in trouble, code red)

Barcelona/Agena FX will beat Intel Core 2 Quad at 3.0 GHz+. Intel knows it and it is scared. Intel also knows that it cannot go over 3.0 GHz with 65 nanometre, at least not at 120 W TDP. Some reports already claim that QX6850 with FSB 1333 and 3 GHZ clock is already pushing the envelope as intel's 120W TDP is actually 150W+ at least on AMD's TDP scale.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=649&Itemid=1
V podstate je to ta ista sprava ako uviedol Masster, len z predosleho dna.

[Antiloopa]

Podle vseho je ten screenshot fake, protoze CPU-Z jeste neumi detekovat L3 cache Ruku do ohne za to nedam, ale podle vseho to prohlasil tvurce CPU-Z.

[MadCap]

ehm, proceso z L3 cache existuje uz davno, a cpu-z ho umi ...

[Antiloopa]

ehm, proceso z L3 cache existuje uz davno, a cpu-z ho umi ...

Tak pak je to povzbuzujici zprava a dobra prace Teda pokud to neni opravdu fake

[Yuri]

ako to ze doteraz som vsade cital o k8l a zrazu prisli na to ze k8l uz existuje a nove procaky uz su k10?

[weepy]

Protoze predtim o tom mluvili jen hosi z inquireru a podobni kachnari, ktery ty zpravi sili z drbu, co se kde sustly. K8L bylo podle amd low power verze K8 = turion. Kdyz AMD vylezla s barcelonou uplne oficialne, mluvila o K10 (edit2: tak pry ani K10, pry vzdycky to byla barcelona - podle AMD).

edit: Kdo jeste necetl, doporucuju pekny clanek na AT - Barcelona Architecture: AMD on the Counterattack:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2939

Jsou tam rozpitvane vsechny zmeny oproti K8.

[Hazo]

Mno niekde som cital, ze tieto nove procaky by sa mali predavat aj so ZBRUSU novymi doskami AM2+ na ZBRUSU novom Chipsete tiez z dielne AMD/ATI specialne pre tieto procaky....
Tieto procaky by mali slapat aj na terajsich doskach AM2 (po update BIOSu) ale bez vsetkych ficuriek... a na kup uz budu v Q4 2007...

Dufam a verim, ze to naozaj bude take delo ako sa pise (lebo uz som chcel kupovat novy komp ale teraz som sa rozhodol , ze este vydrzim)... Dufam, ze to celee nedopadne ako grafika 2xxx... bolo okolo nich velkeeeee HUHUHUUUU, ale zatial realne testy su nejaqe rozpacite....

[weepy]

No jo, urcite ma smysl upgradnout vsechno, ale tim, ze je tady "upgrade path" pro ty mene majetne , urcite amd nemuze ztratit. Hlavni ficura je v lepsim chroustani instrukci, ty ostatni, jako oddelene napajeni northbridge a rychlejsi hypertransport, nebudou tak kriticke (viz lidi, co kvuli blbe udelanym deskam pri oc jedou s HT 2x bez vykonnostniho dopadu)

Nicmene souhlasim, ze ty nove cipsety budou velmi "jedle", nejvic se mi libi pripojeni diskovych a sitovych radicu pres PCIe ... takze takt SATA uz nebude vazany na fsb ani omylem .

Zajimalo by me, jak bude vypadat generovani frekvence HT a CPU, jak bude vypadat zakladni frekvence HT... jestli se zmeni pro AM2+ nebo jestli se jen zmeni treba nasobic HT...

No ale hlavne, at uz s tim AMD vyleze, protoze Q6600 (2.4G) ctyrjadro spadne v cervenci na $266 (z $530).. Ne, ze by mi vadilo zlevnovani, ale na tohle by se mel kouknout nejaky protidumpingovy urad...

[Masster]

AMD Phenom to launch in November

AMD's family of high-end desktop CPUs Phenom (Agena) is scheduled to start appearing in November, according to sources at Taiwan-based motherboard makers. Four products are set to be available in 2007, which will be followed by 11 more during first quarter 2008.

AMD is planning to begin test-production on the CPUs between September and October in order to start shipping in November, said the sources. Of the four products to launch in 2007, one will be in the enthusiast Phenom FX range, the FX-80, two in the quad-core Phenom X4, the GP-7100 and GP-7000, and one in the dual-core Phenom X2, the GS-6550.

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20070622PD217.html

[Petrik]

http://www.novinky.cz/internet/hardw...679_47v31.html
Konecne nejaka pozitivni zprava, uz jsem se bal, ze nejvyssi frekvence bude 1.6GHz

[MadCap]

Intel tiez ukazoval v demo kompoch quad cores na 3,6 GHz a predava "iba" 3GHz to iste bude aj AMD > najvyssi predajny model pre dlhu dobu bude 2,6

[Jarmell]

mno tak doufam ze to da trochu ceny dolu,boj mezi amd a intelem na cenovym poli vypada zajimave,kdyz dokaze amd zlevnit 14k modely na nejakejch 6k za cpu mohlo by to bejt aj u 4core prociku

[MK2]

mno tak doufam ze to da trochu ceny dolu,boj mezi amd a intelem na cenovym poli vypada zajimave,kdyz dokaze amd zlevnit 14k modely na nejakejch 6k za cpu mohlo by to bejt aj u 4core prociku

nejake Quad Core za 6000Sk by boli skvele a predpokladam ze aj budu mozno aj tento rok, AMD hlasi ze Quad Core je ich predstava multimedia PC pre Vistu

[MadCap]

za 6k sk? jedine ze by intel uviedol Q6400 alebo cosi take, pretoze AMD podla ich vlastnych vyjadreni nehodla dalej robit "cenovu vojnu"

[MK2]

za 6k sk? jedine ze by intel uviedol Q6400 alebo cosi take, pretoze AMD podla ich vlastnych vyjadreni nehodla dalej robit "cenovu vojnu"

AMD vida dost nizko taktovane verzie Barcelony, nejak extra drahe nebudu ani lacne samozrejme , Intel chysta 45nm modely Quad Core este koncom tohto roka samozrejme budu lacnejsie ako Q6600, aspon tak pisu na webe.

[MadCap]

lenze nizko taktovane K10tky budu pomalsie ako c2d a co mate stale s tou barcelonou, ked tie jadra sa volaju inak ... barcelona je opteron core a nie Phenom :P

[MK2]

lenze nizko taktovane K10tky budu pomalsie ako c2d a co mate stale s tou barcelonou, ked tie jadra sa volaju inak ... barcelona je opteron core a nie Phenom :P

fajn Phenom vide niekedy v Novembri ak sa nemylim najskorej

[MadCap]

Vsak ano, ale Barcelona ti moze byt veselo ukradnuta, tu si do kompu nestrcis ani nahodou

[MK2]

Vsak ano, ale Barcelona ti moze byt veselo ukradnuta, tu si do kompu nestrcis ani nahodou

hmm veru nie ale o rok taky Phenom X4 vychytana revizia po dalsich cenovych vojnach, ktore urcite budu, nebude zly

[Comby]

Zdroj.

[xjohny]

Nejake slabe ne