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    Standardní Biosy a flashovani - Update!

    1.
    Hodne lidi se pta, proc flashovat bios, kartu muzu prece pretaktovat... Takze kdyz flashnete svoji 5900 biosem z 5950 zvysi se voltaz, ktera umozni vyssi a stabilnejsi overclock, coz take vede k tomu, ze karta vice hreje "ale teplo je spatne, nechci flashovat" s teplem se to ma tak, ze vetsina novych biosu ma neco, co zvysuje rychlost vetracku za ucelem vyrovnani teploty, jde to tak daleko, ze vetsina lidi po flashi ma teploty dokonce nizsi, s tim take souvisi jina neprijemnost, zvyseni hlucnosti vasi karty, ale zvysi se na uroven original 5950 karty, takze si neni vlastne na co stezovat

    2.
    Hodne lidi ma 300 wattovy zdroj, protoze to take vetsina 5900-tek vyzaduje, takze si radeji sezente silnejsi, 350 nebo radeji 400, budete ho potrebovat

    3.
    Flashovani funguje na vetsine 5900 karet, jak ultra tak non-ultra. Ted pozor, majitele 5900SE a XT, karta muze byt, ale take nemusi byt flashnutelna, ale nikdo vam nebrani to zkusit

    4.
    Postup pri flashovani:
    Stahnete si bios, ktery chcete flashnout na svoji kartu, nejlepsim zdrojem bude http://www.mvktech.net/news.php, tam najdete vsechno potrebne, od biosu ruznych znacek az po flashovaci utility.
    Vytvorte si bootovaci disketu (majitelum Win 98/ME bude stacit nabootovat do dosu), nahrajte na ni bios a flashovaci utilitu a restartujte pocitac s disketou v mechanice.

    Takze, ted jsme v dosu, napiste "DIR" pro vypis souboru na diskete, jen pro overeni nazvu souboru s biosem.

    Nepokracujte, pokud nerozumite tomu co hodlate delat nebo pokud nevite jak, pozadejte zkusenejsiho pritele, ktery vi jak na to

    Postup flashe za pouziti utility WFFLASH od leadteku.
    1.
    A:\WFFLASH.exe -s pro zalohu vaseho biosu (jen pro jistotu)
    2.
    A:\WFFLASH.exe jmenosouboru.rom (pro zapsani biosu na kartu), kdyz tohle nefunguje, pokracujte k bodu 3
    3.
    A:\WFFLASH.exe NM jmenosouboru.rom

    Postup flashe za pouziti utility NVFLASH, pouzivejte verzi 4.41
    1.
    A:\NVFLASH.exe -b zaloha.rom (pro zalohu biosu)
    2.
    A:\NVFLASH.exe -p -u -f jmenosouboru.rom

    Pokud se objevi chybova hlaska, muzete pouzit, i kdyz se to nedoporucuje
    2*)
    A:\NVFLASH.exe -5 -f jmenosouboru.rom
    Pokud bude chybovych hlasek vic
    2*)
    A:\NVFLASH.exe -5 -6 -f jmenosouboru.rom
    Pokud se objevi chybova hlaska o protekci proti prepsani, muzete ji odebrat prikazem
    A:\NVFLASH.exe -r

    Vysvetleni nekterych prikazu:
    -f (jmenosouboru) pouziva s k flashnuti noveho biosu, musi byt pred nazvem biosu a musi obsahovat priponu .rom .bin .bios atd.

    -b (jmenosouboru) pouziva se na zalohu biosu, ktery je v te chvili na karte

    -y restartovat system po provedeni flashe, nedoporucuju

    -a vypis vsech grafickych karet NVIDIA nalezene v systemu

    -r pro odebrani ochrany proti prepsani

    -n k obejiti PCI biosu, predpokladam ze takhle si neflashnete PCI grafiku

    Za kazdych okolnosti si zazalohujte svuj bios! Pokud flash selze, muzete vzdycky pouzit "flash na slepo" nebo PCI grafiku

    Flash na slepo

    Kdyz se vam neporadi flash nebo dojde behem flashovani k nechtemu restartu atd., muzete spustit PC, ale nic neuvidite, nechte disketu v mechanice a nechte system nabootovat z diskety, pote muzete poslepu zadat prikazy a doufat, ze se neprepisete Muzete si praci take ulehcit tim, ze si udelate druhou bootovaci disketu s vasim originalnim biosem a umistite na ni autoexec.bat do ktereho pridate prikaz pro flash, napr. pri pouziti utility WFFLASH.exe by pridana radka do autoexecu vypadala nasledovne WFFLASH.exe NM jmenosouboru.bin

    Flashnul jsem svoji 5900 na 5950Ultra a vykon nikde?

    Po flashi sice dojde ke zvyseni taktu jadra, ale soucasne dochazi i ke zvyseni latence pameti. Vysledkem je to, ze na vasi flashnute 5900 dosahnete stejnych nebo dokonce nizsich vysledku nez na vasi 5900 nataktovane na frekvence 5950Ultra. Je to ve vetsine pripadu naprosto normalni. "Ale tak proc sem svoji kartu vlastne flashoval" Protoze bios z 5950Ultra pousti o 0.2V vice do GPU a tim se zvysi maximalne dosazitelna frekvence GPU

    Ktere karty jsou vhodne ke flashi?

    Je to vetsina 5900 non-ultra a ultra, ktere jsou normalne dostupne v CR. U verzi SP a XT musite mit proste stesti, vetsinou byva prekazkou pamet.

    Dobra zprava pro majitele flashnutych 5900, kteri tim prisli o tv-out

    Na jednom foru sem nasel nekoho kdo rozlustil bios a vi co ktere hodnoty znamenaji a na co je zmenit. Takze uz je mozna si na sve 5900 jen zvysit voltaz u jadra a neni potrebo flashovat bios z 5950.

    Z casovych duvodu to sem zatim hodim anglicky (mozna se na to vrhnu za par tydnu), kdyby se to nekomu nahodou chtelo prelozit tak se tomu samozrejme nebranim

    I will start with a simple cautionary warning to all who think that bios modding appears very straight forward and thus holds no threat to them.

    The major, but least understood, problem with modifying bios's and flashing cards, is that whatever defaults you flash to, may, in extreme cases, be too much and thus not allow your card to post during your computer's bootup. It may not in fact be a bad bios, just a bad flash of a bios to your card which stops it posting. And if this does happen, then unfortunately for you, to recover the situation, only a professional with the right tools may be able to erase and reflash your card to a working state.

    Just a small warning then to everybody wanting to play about with bios modding -----> Do something wrong, doesn't have to be more than a wrong binary digit in wrong place or a bad flash and you could be looking for that professional bios fixer or another card.

    So be careful out there !!!

    The FX5900nu, FX5900u and FX5950u cards are essentially the same design and therefore bios's are generally interchangeable, and likewise any modified versions of each bios. The new and more unique FX5900XT type (including SE/LX/SP etc) however is a somewhat different and cheaper design of card, and its bios, although interchangeable with other XT's, is not in fact useable with any of the original 59xx cards. When proposing bios changes it is therefore best to consider them separately.

    It is suggested that the Ray Adams X-Bios Editor v1.0.3.520 be used for all bios changes as it includes the best free Hex Editor, and most importantly it will add the correct CRC bit to ensure a successful flash. And for flashing, it is also suggested that nvflash.exe v4.41 be used. It is a flashing program I have used with complete success literally hundreds of times.


    1. FX5900nu, FX5900u and 5950u.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    (a). SPEEDS.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    For the purposes of bios speed changes, neither the ASUS5900u or 5950u bios's are considered applicable as GPU and Memory speed table structures are totally different from all others bios's.

    The first thing about GPU and Memory speeds is to identify how to find and read them. All speeds are stored as 8 bit binary words which are derived from a hex conversion of the speed required as follows,

    A typical stock speed setup of 300/400/850 means that,

    2D speed is 300MHz.
    3D speed is 400MHz.
    Memory speed is 850MHz (Actually 425MHz, only stated as 850 as it is DDR Memory).

    In simplistic terms, the binary word is derived by multiplying the speed by 100, converting to Hex, transposing the last and first two digits of Hex value and adding four zero's to the end.

    2D speed = 300x100 = 30000 = 7530 Hex = 30750000 bin word (or 30 75 00 00)
    3D speed = 400x100 = 40000 = 9C40 Hex = 409C0000 bin word (or 40 9C 00 00)
    Mem speed = 425x100 = 42500 = A604 Hex = 04A60000 bin word (or 04 A6 00 00)

    So to find any GPU or Memory speed in a bios just look for the 8 bit binary word that represents it, ie for 300MHz look for "30 75 00 00", and change it to any other 8 bit binary word. It is important that you look for the 8 bit binary value rather than just the front 4 bit word, as that particular 4 bit sequence may exist in a number of places in the bios file as programming code, which, if you change, could cause serious problems.

    The GPU and Memory speed tables are located near the end of the bios file and are structured as three closely positioned tables starting with 2D, then Throttling and finally 3D. Each table consists of nine 8 bit binary words, the first bin word being for GPU speed followed by eight 8 bit words for Memory speed. Throttling is set at 375MHz regardless of GPU 2D/3D speeds, And Memory speed is set the same for all Tables.

    Using the above example of 300/400/850 will show,

    2D Table (300/850),
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    30 75 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00
    04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00
    04 A6 00 00

    Throttling Table (375/850),
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    7C 92 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00
    04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00
    04 A6 00 00

    3D Table (400/850),
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    40 9C 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00
    04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00 04 A6 00 00
    04 A6 00 00


    The Throttling function is only applicable to 3D Mode of operation and can be effectively disabled if desired by setting speed to same as 3D. This is what is normally done for some FX5700u bios's I have checked. Also remember to change the GPU throttling volts to cater for whatever speed you have set it at.

    Another possible way of removing throttling however is to use a ASUS5900u or 5950u bios as they operate in 3D all the time and feedback has indicated they have no throttling mode ?


    (b). GPU VOLTS.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Closely located to the three speed tables, is another Table of seven 2 Bit values for controlling GPU Volts, structured as follows,

    07 78 04 82 05 8C 06

    The purpose of this table is to set the GPU volts during 2D, Throttling and 3D modes. In simple terms, the first two bit value represents the max number of table options, and the follow on three 4 bit words show the actual options that are set for this bios. However note that the first two bits of each 4 bit word is only an indicator, and has no functional purpose other than it indicates the volts expected (found by, converting to decimal/100). The last two bits of each 4 bit word are the important ones, because they set the GPU volts for the various modes of the card.

    Using above example shows,

    (hex 78.)/100 or 120/100 = 1.2 = 04 option.
    (hex 82)/100 or 130/100 = 1.3 = 05 option.
    (hex 8C)/100 or 140/100 = 1.4 = 06 option.

    This shows that GPU volts in 2D as set by option 04 is 1.2V, and in Throttling mode as set by option 05 is 1.3V and finally 3D as set by option 06 is 1.4V. You can however interchange any of the 4 bit values, and thus set 2D GPU volts at 1.4V if desired.

    There is a seventh option, indicated by the "07" at the start of the table, which is needed by a 5950u, where it sets the GPU volts at 1.5V in order that it can run at higher speeds. And when present is normally represented by "96 07" in the 3D position of the table. And, although not normally used in a 5900nu or 5900u bios, there is no reason why either of these can't have the GPU volts set to give the same 1.5v of a 5950u.

    So any 5900nu, 5900u or 5950u bios can be changed to make GPU volts in 2D, Throttling and 3D modes anything from 1.2V to 1.5V.


    (c). MEMORY LATENCIES.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Nearer the end of the bios file is another table with the basic memory latencies, made up of eight 8 bit binary words. Standard values set for a 5900nu are "07 00 0F 43" and for both 5900u and 5950u are "07 03 0F 43". And hard trials have shown that the optimum for improved performance with good stability is got by reducing the 43 to 40. The change must be made to each of the eight binary words in the table.

    And for many cards, just changing "07 03 0F 43" or "07 00 0F 43" to "07 00 0F 40" will provide even more perfomance, but may require slightly less overclocking of memory for good stability.



    2. FX5900XT/SE/LE/LX/SP etc.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    (a). SPEEDS.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Changing speeds in a XT types bios is exactly the same as above for 5900nu, 5900u and 5950u bios's.


    (b). GPU VOLTS.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Closely located to the three speed tables, is the seven 2 Bit binary Table for controlling GPU Volts in a typical XT bios. It is structured as follows,

    03 78 01 82 02 8C 03

    And like the table at 1(b) above, the purpose of this table is also to set the GPU volts during 2D, Throttling and 3D modes. In simple terms, the first two bit value represents the max number of table options, and the follow on three 4 bit words show the actual options that are set for this bios. However note that the first two bits of each 4 bit word is only an indicator, and has no functional purpose other than it indicates the volts expected (found by, converting to decimal/100). The last two bits of each 4 bit word are the important ones, because they set the GPU volts for the various modes of the card.

    Using above example shows,

    (hex 78.)/100 or 120/100 = 1.2 = 01 option.
    (hex 82)/100 or 130/100 = 1.3 = 02 option.
    (hex 8C)/100 or 140/100 = 1.4 = 03 option.

    This shows that GPU volts in 2D as set by option 01 is 1.2V, and in Throttling mode as set by option 02 is 1.3V and finally 3D as set by option 03 is 1.4V. You can however interchange any of the 4 bit values, and thus set 2D GPU volts at 1.4V if desired.

    Other than some manufacturers initial entry XT cards which were based on 5900nu's, there is no direct readaccross to the GPU 1.5V option of a 5950u. If the volts control table starts with "07" you have the 5950u 1.5V option, and if it starts with "03" you haven't.

    However any XT type bios can still be changed to make GPU volts in 2D, Throttling and 3D modes anything from 1.2V to 1.4V.



    (c). MEMORY LATENCIES.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Changing memory latency in a XT types bios is exactly the same as above for 5900nu, 5900u and 5950u bios's. The only difference you will encounter is that a XT bios is normally set at a very tight value of "07 03 0F 03". So in this case you will change the last "03" up to "40", for each of the eight binary words in the table. This will give much better memory overclocking and performance.

    And for many cards, changing "07 03 0F 03" to "07 00 0F 40" will provide even more perfomance, but may require slightly less overclocking of memory for good stability

    EDIT:

    This procedure only covers the simple basics of what can be changed easily in a FX59xxx bios and not everything that is possible !!!!

    Ve 2 pripadech sem byl nucen pridat cervenou tecku, delalo mi to tam smajlika
    Velke podekovani autorovi, za tuhle praci " THX Jimmor"

    EDIT: Trochu jsem upravil svuj prvni post, protoze otazek k flashi je porad dost, doufam, ze tohle snad pomuze
    EDIT2: Trochu jsem to zase doplnil
    EDIT3: Pridan navod na upravu biosu na miru Konecne
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Uz jste nekdo zkousel flesnout ten ASUS 5950U mimo masstera.
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    Zkoušel, ale TV Out pořád nejede
    Intel P4 NW3,4@3,8 Asus P4P800E-DeLuxe, 1GBKingmax, 3xHDD 360GB, Asus9950Ultra256Mb@5950Ultra 450/850@530/1000, Asus TV7134 FM, Audigy1, Asus DVD-Rom E608, LG DVD-RW 4160B, ADI DUO 17\", zdroj Q-Tec 400W, FDD LS 120Mb, MX1000Laser, HP 5150, Scanner Genius,....

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    Bavil jsem se s lidma na guru3d a vypada to ze bude potreba pockat na novejsi revizi biosu nebo nekoho kdo tv out zprovozni zmenami v biosu, no je to bohuzel slozitejsi
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    škoda, asi se budu muset vrátik k origoši, ten Out dost používám Sákryššššš
    Intel P4 NW3,4@3,8 Asus P4P800E-DeLuxe, 1GBKingmax, 3xHDD 360GB, Asus9950Ultra256Mb@5950Ultra 450/850@530/1000, Asus TV7134 FM, Audigy1, Asus DVD-Rom E608, LG DVD-RW 4160B, ADI DUO 17\", zdroj Q-Tec 400W, FDD LS 120Mb, MX1000Laser, HP 5150, Scanner Genius,....

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    Posledni dobou se tady kazdy pta na bios nebo na navod k flashi. Co takhle to hodit do FAQ nebo jako sticky??
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Posledni dobou se tady kazdy pta na bios nebo na navod k flashi. Co takhle to hodit do FAQ nebo jako sticky??
    To by bylo fajn, prostě takový komplet návod, jak postupovat při flashování. Taky to chci zkusit, ale rád bych znal všechná rizika, možné varianty flashnutí, kde a jak to dělat, kterým programem a tak. Určitě by se našlo hodně lidí, které to zajímá, třeba já

    Biosy už mám stáhnuté, asi 30, ale pořád né se k tomu rozhoupat. Někde jsem četl tady na fóru, že je k tomu dobré mít PCI grafiku, proč? Ten návod,postup, by se fakt hodil.
    [size=2]CPU: Intel CeleronD320 2,4GHz@3,6GHz (18*200MHz) MB: MSI Neo2-PFS Platinum Edition RAM: GEIL DUAL DDR400 2*512MB HDD: Maxtor 120GB SATA + Seagate 40GB PATA VGA: NVIDIA Leadtek 7600GT 256MB DDR3 (560/1400@650/1600) DVD: Toshiba DVD-RW: LG GSA-4163B LCD: Neovo F-419 black SYS:WINDOWS XP HOME SP2 CASE: ANTEC SLK3000B ZDROJ LC POWER 550W
    3DMark01 ... 17.330, 3DMark03 ... 13.310, 3DMark05 ... 5.892, 3DMark06 ... 3.264, AquaMark3 ... 56.243 (GFX 8.691 / CPU 7.971)[/color]

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    Posledni dobou se tady kazdy pta na bios nebo na navod k flashi. Co takhle to hodit do FAQ nebo jako sticky??
    To by bylo fajn, prostě takový komplet návod, jak postupovat při flashování. Taky to chci zkusit, ale rád bych znal všechná rizika, možné varianty flashnutí, kde a jak to dělat, kterým programem a tak. Určitě by se našlo hodně lidí, které to zajímá, třeba já

    Biosy už mám stáhnuté, asi 30, ale pořád né se k tomu rozhoupat. Někde jsem četl tady na fóru, že je k tomu dobré mít PCI grafiku, proč? Ten návod,postup, by se fakt hodil.
    PCI grafika se hodi pri spatnym flashi, nabootujes pres pci grafiku a flashnes zpatky original bios.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    to jako jde nějak nastavit, aby bootoval z pci karty v biosu, jo. Já to ještě nezkoušel,zase tolik jsem se v tom ještě nehrabal ,ale rád bych do toho proniknul. Taky jsem někde čet něco o nějaké obnovující disketě, že vše automaticky vráti zpět, kdyby se něco podě.lalo. Jak jí vytvořím, v jakém programu?
    [size=2]CPU: Intel CeleronD320 2,4GHz@3,6GHz (18*200MHz) MB: MSI Neo2-PFS Platinum Edition RAM: GEIL DUAL DDR400 2*512MB HDD: Maxtor 120GB SATA + Seagate 40GB PATA VGA: NVIDIA Leadtek 7600GT 256MB DDR3 (560/1400@650/1600) DVD: Toshiba DVD-RW: LG GSA-4163B LCD: Neovo F-419 black SYS:WINDOWS XP HOME SP2 CASE: ANTEC SLK3000B ZDROJ LC POWER 550W
    3DMark01 ... 17.330, 3DMark03 ... 13.310, 3DMark05 ... 5.892, 3DMark06 ... 3.264, AquaMark3 ... 56.243 (GFX 8.691 / CPU 7.971)[/color]

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    to jako jde nějak nastavit, aby bootoval z pci karty v biosu, jo. Já to ještě nezkoušel,zase tolik jsem se v tom ještě nehrabal ,ale rád bych do toho proniknul. Taky jsem někde čet něco o nějaké obnovující disketě, že vše automaticky vráti zpět, kdyby se něco podě.lalo. Jak jí vytvořím, v jakém programu?
    Jo v biosu si muzes nastavit jestli mas grafiku v pci nebo v agp, ale myslim, ze signal to nejspis posila postupne do obou, takze ti obraz nabehne tak jako tak. Ta obnovujici disketa je jina pouze v tom, ze obsahuje autoxec do ktereho vlozis prikaz rovnou pro flashovani, napr. pouzivas wfflash, takze do autoexecu pridas wfflash jmenobiosu.bin(nekdy byva rom).
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    To: bigbalu koukal jsem ze mas 5700 hlavne to nefleseuj na 5950 nepujdeto a odpalis krafiku.
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    hmmm, zajímavé. A co ten nápad s tím komlet manuálem, krok za krokem, bylo by fajn něco podobného udělat, třeba odkaz na nějakou vlastní stránku, kde to bude více popsané, obrázky a tak.
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    no tak to je fajn, pokusím se to vyzkoušet, je tu nějaké ryziko, že se mí odpálí karta nebo nějak poruší? Jaké je asi procento, že už to nerozběhnu? Ale jinak ten návod je moc fajn, konečně se někdo k tomuto odhodlal, chvála tobě
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    no tak to je fajn, pokusím se to vyzkoušet, je tu nějaké ryziko, že se mí odpálí karta nebo nějak poruší? Jaké je asi procento, že už to nerozběhnu? Ale jinak ten návod je moc fajn, konečně se někdo k tomuto odhodlal, chvála tobě
    Odpalit se neda urcite, jen se muze stat, ze dalsi bios po case uz nepujde flashnout (stava se to jen pri castem flashovani karty, 20x a vice). Riziko tady existuje samozrejme vzdycky, ale moznost vratit zpatky original bios samozrejme taky
    Doufam, ze ten navod pomuze, samozrejme jsem ho nedelal uplne sam a inspiroval sem se podobnymi navody na internetu a doplnil jsem tam i svoje zkusenosti.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Prosim ta existuje aj nejaky navod,postup ako flashnut bios aj bez disketovej mechaniky?Alebo je vobec lepsie to flashnut z diskety{nemam ju nainstalovanu ale mozem si ju tam dat}
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    Prosim ta existuje aj nejaky navod,postup ako flashnut bios aj bez disketovej mechaniky?Alebo je vobec lepsie to flashnut z diskety{nemam ju nainstalovanu ale mozem si ju tam dat}
    Jestli se dostanes do dosu, tak muzes flashovat i z disku, no vlastne z jakehokoli media, na ktere budes mit z dosu pristup, ale protoze vetsina uzivatelu tady ma Win XP, imho, tak jsem uvedl nejsnadnejsi postup pro ne
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Skoušel už někdo flashovat Fx5700? mam sparkla a zajíma mě jakej tam můžu nacpat bios a kde ho seženu. thanx.

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    Aby se tady zbytecne nemnozili dotazy, takze majitele FX5700, co presne ocekavate od flashe? Moznost flashe je jen na FX5700Ultra a to jen zmeni default frekvence, pokud vim, tak zvyseni voltaze se nekona, takze nevidim duvod kartu flashovat.
    V tomhle pripade si opravdu nejsem jisty, ale pokusim se projit diskuze a dam podrobnejsi info

    EDIT: Hmm, tak na to jsem uplne zapomnel, pokud vase 5700 nema DDR2 pameti, tak muzete na flash zapomenout.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    Tak jsem to zkoušel a nejde mi to, zkoušel jsem biosy z 5900xt i non ultra a obraz se vždy jen rozpadl, někdy nechtěl ani naběhnout system, ale vše se dá vrátit pomocí obnovovací diskety, díky tomuto fóru jsem se k tomu konečně odhodlal a zjistil, že to nejde, zatím, já se nevzdám. Asi to dá default moc velké frekvence na paměti nebo čip a proto to nejde, ale nezdá se mi, že by to grafika na chvilku, než se dostanu do win a stáhnu frekvence nevydrží. Obraz se rozpadne hned po restartu po flashnutí. Ještě zkusím jiné biosy, ale už to vidím velmi bledě.

    Jakto že musím mít DDR 2 paměti, né každá karta je přece má, tak by to nemělo stát v cestě, ne
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    Tak jsem to zkoušel a nejde mi to, zkoušel jsem biosy z 5900xt i non ultra a obraz se vždy jen rozpadl, někdy nechtěl ani naběhnout system, ale vše se dá vrátit pomocí obnovovací diskety, díky tomuto fóru jsem se k tomu konečně odhodlal a zjistil, že to nejde, zatím, já se nevzdám. Asi to dá default moc velké frekvence na paměti nebo čip a proto to nejde, ale nezdá se mi, že by to grafika na chvilku, než se dostanu do win a stáhnu frekvence nevydrží. Obraz se rozpadne hned po restartu po flashnutí. Ještě zkusím jiné biosy, ale už to vidím velmi bledě.

    Jakto že musím mít DDR 2 paměti, né každá karta je přece má, tak by to nemělo stát v cestě, ne
    Nemuzes flashovat bios karty z jine rady, funguje to jen mezi sebou
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    fakt, tak to jsem v p***, fakt by to nešlo, nemá 5700 podobnou architekturu s vyšší řadou, to je fakt smůla. No co, zůstanu u 5700

    Asi půjdu časem do 5900 a flashnu to na 5950U, je nějaká 5900 obstojná k tomuto úkolu za rozumné peníze?
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    fakt, tak to jsem v p***, fakt by to nešlo, nemá 5700 podobnou architekturu s vyšší řadou, to je fakt smůla. No co, zůstanu u 5700

    Asi půjdu časem do 5900 a flashnu to na 5950U, je nějaká 5900 obstojná k tomuto úkolu za rozumné peníze?
    Jestli myslis jen u nas, tak bych to videl bud na cistyho Asuse nebo Albatron.
    But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy

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    To: bigbalu vzdyt jsem ti to psal na zacatku ze nejde flesnout 5700 na 5900.
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    nevite negdo o biosu na 5800 aby jela na 5800ULTRA? nezveda se tam taky nejak napejti? doufam zejo... snad 1,3GHZ dam
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    To: -Ja8k1- koukni na ty stranky co tady dal Masster tam urcite najdes bios 5800U.
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