Kód:Stream Processors 128 ROPs 16 Fab Process 55nm Core Clock (Mhz) 740 Shader Clock (Ghz) 1.836 Memory Clock (Mhz) 1100 (2200 DDR) Memory Type GDDR3 Memory Interface 256bit Power Connector Two
Recenze:
Kód:Stream Processors 128 ROPs 16 Fab Process 55nm Core Clock (Mhz) 740 Shader Clock (Ghz) 1.836 Memory Clock (Mhz) 1100 (2200 DDR) Memory Type GDDR3 Memory Interface 256bit Power Connector Two
Recenze:
Naposledy upravil Masster; 22.06.2008 v 11:25.
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
Na kartě mě zaujala možnost vysokého přetaktování:
Na těchto taktech je karta výkonnější než HD3870X2.
C2D E4300@3.2GHz, GB DS4 rev.2 F8, DDR2 Corsair 2048MB Twinx XMS2-6400, Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB ST3250310AS
To OC je dost neuveritelny, taky jsem na to koukal.
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
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Dival ses na ty grafy? 9800GTX+ je porad o dost pomalejsi nez GTX 260.
Kdyby ji nataktovali na default vys, tak se tu urcite objevi, ze zase moc zere...
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
aurora + 500W, maximus formula, 4*2GB, C2Q 9400, cnps10x ex., 560Ti HAWK, vertex 60GB, 2*3TB WD, Lenovo L220x, lycosa + diamondback
Acer 1810T
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Jenze oni to nepotrebuji. 9800GTX ma +- stejny vykon jako HD4850 pri rozumnem nastaveni odpovidajicim mainstremove karte a GTX+ je jeste rychlejsi. Nehlede na to, ze 9800 maji o dost lepsi chladic, ktery bude dost velka cast lidi u HD4850 pravdepodobne menit, takze cenovy rozdil nebude ani u GTX+ tak veliky.
Naposledy upravil Masster; 23.06.2008 v 09:33.
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
To sice nebude, otázkou je, jestli lidi, kteří kupují mainstream kartu nebudou řešit to, že sestava s 9800GTX+, byť je 55nm, má v loadu pořád o nějakých 50W vyšší spotřebu, což není úplně zanedbatelné...takže když to tak člověk shrne, cena nebude moc rozdílná, vezmeme-li 9800GTX+ vs. 4850+S1, výkon taky moc ne, ale pro AMD/ATI hovoří ta spotřeba, což by podle mého váhajícího kupce mohlo přesvědčit...
• Dell XPS M1210 (C2D T5500@1.66GHz undervolted to 0,95V, 2GB DDR2-667, 250GB 7200rpm HDD, GMA950, Win 8 Pro)
Ono to s tou spotrebou neni zas tak horke.
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
Mhm, tak teda nevím, čemu věřit. Tady na hardware.fr, co v ATI sekci postoval No-X, jen těch cca. 50W rozdíl....a pak si má člověk z recenzí udělat nějakou reálnou představu...
• Dell XPS M1210 (C2D T5500@1.66GHz undervolted to 0,95V, 2GB DDR2-667, 250GB 7200rpm HDD, GMA950, Win 8 Pro)
Prijde mi divne, ze by karta na 55nm i kdyz vyse taktovana mela stejnou spotrebu s 65nm modelem.
Tady je dalsi recenze se spotrebou a i kdyz tam neni GTX+, tak by to melo pro predstavu stacit.
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
ale jiste ze to potrebuji. gtx je POMALEJSI nez 4850 (ikdyz v radu nekolika %, muzeme brat klidne ze jsou i stejne, pro nv to vyjde porad jako porazka kdyz musela slevit zkoro 30% ceny, a jeste asi pujde dal), proc asi by jinak vydavali GTX+ (a ta je nad gtx o 8%, takze je jen lehce nad 4850, a jestli drivery zvednou vykon o 10% (jak se uz tolikrat stalo) tak gtx+ zase utre...)
nV ale zase sazi na marketing a na to, ze kdyz rekne ze gtx+ je lepsi nez 4850 ze to lidi sezerou (a taky ze castecne jo) - ahlavne aby lidi pockali s nakupem a nekupovali 4850 - kdo uz bude mit 4850 tak si 9800xxx nekoupi....
ke chladici - to mas pravdu, ale lidi vidi 3700+300 daleko radeji nez 4000, takze 3700+300 (4850+chladic) bude vzdy min nez 4000 (gtx) popr. ~4500 (gtx+) (matematiku v tom nehledej, je to to same proc lidi kupojou veci za 999 miso za 1000 ikdyz utrati 100 za benzin aby to toho levnejsiho kramu dojeli)
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55nm verze G92 byla v road mape uz slusnych par mesicu, pokud je mi znamo. Uvedeni HD4850 jen urychlilo "launch" a s prichodem GTX+ by stejne cena GTX musela jit dolu.
Mimochodem co se tyce toho neustaleho zvedani vykonu...pokud by v kazde verzi dochazelo k takovym narustum o jakych se clovek vzdycky docte, tak uz je ted HD3870 rychlejsi jak GTX 280... Nekdy zacatkem roku vysel test Cat., rozdil asi 4 mesice mezi obema verzemi a narust tam byl jen minimalni. Pokud uz dochazi k uprave vykonu, tak je spis to oprava propadu, nez dalsi navysovani.
Naposledy upravil Masster; 23.06.2008 v 11:13.
byla, ale jen proto aby se slevnila vyroba, ne kvuli vykonu. a cena gtx by urcite nesla o takovou castku...na to je nV az moc vys*ana
zvedani vykonu - jasne ze ne kazdy mesic ale tech par potrebnych % (mozna i vic, kdo vi) behem par (2-3) mesicu bych veril ze pridaji (jako snad u vsech karet)
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Proc lidi porad u ATI spolehaji ze se vykon zvedne o xx% ? To uz je hodne stary prezitek ale koukam ze uzivatele tyhle 100x omlety "pravde" porad veri a utesuji se ji
PC1=Gigabyte P35-DQ6/C2D E8400@4GHz/WD5000AAKS+WD Raptor 74+150Gb/Gigabyte 460GTX/2xTwin2x2048-6400=4GB/X-Fi Fatality/Samsung SH-S183L/Fortron Epsilon 700W/NEC 20WGX2/HecoVicta500+Marantz
PC2=DFI LP Ultra-D/AMD64 X2 4400+/Raptor 36Gb+WD2500KS/Palit 460GTX/Twinx2048-3500LLPro/DVDRW LG GSA-4160B/Fortron 500W/Comaq S710/Audigy2
PC3= Abit AV8/ AMD64 3000+@266x9=2400/Seagate 160GB+WD 120GB/Sapphire X800Pro@XT TOXIC /2x512Mb A-DATA 566/Audigy 1/AOC 17" 7A+/DVDRW LG GSA-4120B/Fortron 350W
PC4= Soltek 75DRV5 KT333/AMD 1700+@2000+/2x256Mb Kingmax 400/3Dfx Voodoo 5500/SB 128 CT4700/Maxtor 40GB/DVD Asus E616/EVER 250W
X2-4850e(2,5Ghz@1,0Ghz:1,15V@0,85V),GB 780G (HD 3200 IGP), 4GB DDR2 880, 500GB SATAII(AAKS), SH-S203D DVD-RW, Antec 3480....
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aurora + 500W, maximus formula, 4*2GB, C2Q 9400, cnps10x ex., 560Ti HAWK, vertex 60GB, 2*3TB WD, Lenovo L220x, lycosa + diamondback
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Tohle je samozrejme pravda, ale rozhodne to neni takove jako se nekde doctes. Skoro pod kazdou recenzi se objevi, ze ted sice o neco prohravaji, ale oni to dozenou a casem budou dokonce rychlejsi. Ted jsem se schvalne dival na ty nove recenze, kde se objevuje HD3870 a 8800GT a situace se nezmenila, jedna karta porad vede.
But of course, the unlimited evilness of the ultimate tool of mischief, the universal explanation for sucky performance from anything other than nVidia, TWIMTBP, strikes again. The shenanigans know no bounds....luckily, in this sea of pain and anguish,the shining beacon of light and righteousness, ATi, stand, with their Get in the Game program that they managed so badly(because they`re not evil like nV, see, so they couldn`t actually have a program where they worked really close with devs, pushing their tech into their stuff) that no game is part of it. - Morgoth the Dark Enemy
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