WD400BB - blizi sa koniec?

Mam ho uz skoro 3 roky (vyrobeny bol 4/2001), doteraz bez problemov. Dnes som defragmentoval disk a pri tom mi to zamrzlo, LEDka svietila a z disku sa ozyvali slabe divne zvuky (pokusal sa precitat dokola to iste). Tak som to resetoval a pustil rucne scandisk. Zastavil sa na chybe, ze bad sector a treba pustit thorough test.
Nabootoval som z diskety od WD a quick test mi povedal, ze na disku su chyby, ktore mozu byt opravitelne a spytal sa, ci ich chcem opravit. Dal som nie, disk pripojil do druheho PC a zalohoval vsetko dolezite (zaujimave, ze ked treba, tak obsah 40GB disku vojde na 30GB disk, na ktorom je uz kopa vselicoho ;D ).
Potom som to dal "opravit" tou diagnostikou od WD. Po "opraveni" uz quick test presiel bez problemov, tak som spustil este extended test - ten skoncil s chybou 0357. Tak som dal write zeros a to teraz bezi (asi 2 a pol hodiny) - som zvedavy, co z toho bude...
Stretol sa niekto s takymto problemom pri diskoch WD?
A este trochu OT otazka: aky disk mam kupit? WD1200JB alebo Samsung SP1213N? IBM/Hitachi, Maxtor ani Seagate nechcem.

Co ten beďar?? Je jen jeden, nebo je jich víc, je jejich počet stálý nebo se zvětšují?? Pokud ne disk by byl ještě vcelku použitelný, kdyžtak se podívej na moje stránky o bad sectorech http://apokeus.wz.cz (prosím ale toleranci co se týče mé angličtiny :oops: )
jinak doporučuju seagate

Neviem, kolko ich tam bolo - scandisk som nenechal pusteny. Ale pri zalohovani sa mi nepodarilo precitat asi 5 suborov (medzi nimi aj USER.DAT :evil: :evil: ako vzdy pri chybe na disku...) Mam aj ulozeny vypis zo SMART (aj zo SMART logu poslednych par chyb) - ale mam to na Linuxovej particii a teraz som vo Windows.

Tak to bude zkřivená hlava, která bude dělat stále nové bad sectory :? , doporučuju ti to co jsi z disku nevytahal rychle zazálohovat, pokud si chces trochu zariskovat zkus low level format jako poslední pokus o záchranu disku.

Teraz bezi write zeros, uz je to skoro na konci. Potom pustim znovu testy a ked to prejde, tak FDISK+format a pozriem do SMARTu - aky je status a ci pribudaju chyby do logu.

tak se taky pridam (Barracuda IV80GB)...
dneska jsem s tim delal co slo, ale vypada to, ze disk konci. jeste "docela" jede. seatools jsem odstranim BB (jelo to snad 6hodin), ale je zabrzdeny (ke konci disku rychlost rapidne klesa) a ma problemy se smart.

vypis z Active SMART

Takze write zeros skoncilo bez chyby a extended test tiez presiel bez chyby. Zajtra pozriem do SMARTu...

SMART pred zalohovanim:

Kód:

smartctl version 5.1-18 Copyright (C) 2002-3 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1 Serial Number: WD-WMA6R3401126 Firmware Version: 18.20D18 Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: 5 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated Local Time is: Fri Jan 23 20:00:08 2004 CET SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Off-line data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity was suspended by an interrupting command from host. Auto Off-line Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete off-line data collection: (2040) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Automatic timer ON/OFF support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. No Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. No General Purpose Logging support. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 32) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 074 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 133 100 021 Pre-fail Always - 2166 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 098 098 040 Old_age Always - 2077 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0032 200 200 112 Old_age Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 086 086 000 Old_age Always - 10774 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 098 051 Pre-fail Always - 2 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1754 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 193 193 000 Old_age Always - 50 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 6 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 ATA Error Count: 102 (device log contains only the most recent five errors) CR = Command Register [HEX] FR = Features Register [HEX] SC = Sector Count Register [HEX] SN = Sector Number Register [HEX] CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX] CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX] DH = Device/Head Register [HEX] DC = Device Command Register [HEX] ER = Error register [HEX] ST = Status register [HEX] Timestamp = decimal seconds since the previous disk power-on. Note: timestamp "wraps" after 2^32 msec = 49.710 days. Error 102 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 943 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 01 ea 2b 86 e0 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- 20 00 01 ea 2b 86 e0 00 2719.050 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 a7 03 5f e1 00 2719.050 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 67 1c 86 e0 00 2719.050 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 a7 72 95 e0 00 2719.050 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 27 c0 03 e0 00 2719.000 READ SECTOR(S) Error 101 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 943 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 01 ea 2b 86 e0 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- 20 00 01 ea 2b 86 e0 00 2663.100 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 67 06 6b e1 00 2663.100 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 a7 f3 6a e1 00 2663.050 READ SECTOR(S) 91 00 3f 01 00 00 fe 0a 2662.950 INITIALIZE DEVICE PARAMETERS [OBS-6] 10 00 01 01 00 00 a0 08 2662.950 RECALIBRATE [OBS-4] Error 100 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 943 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 01 ea 2b 86 e0 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- 20 00 01 ea 2b 86 e0 00 2653.700 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 01 ee 2b 86 e0 00 2653.650 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 01 ed 2b 86 e0 00 2653.650 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 01 ec 2b 86 e0 00 2653.650 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 01 eb 2b 86 e0 00 2653.650 READ SECTOR(S) Error 99 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 943 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was doing SMART off-line or self test. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 01 ea 2b 86 e0 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- 20 00 01 ea 2b 86 e0 00 2644.550 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 01 e9 2b 86 e0 00 2644.550 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 01 e8 2b 86 e0 00 2644.550 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 01 e7 2b 86 e0 00 2644.550 READ SECTOR(S) 91 00 3f 01 00 00 fe 0a 2644.450 INITIALIZE DEVICE PARAMETERS [OBS-6] Error 98 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 943 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was doing SMART off-line or self test. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 08 ea 2b 86 e0 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- 20 00 08 e7 2b 86 e0 00 2635.300 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 e7 00 7f e0 00 2635.300 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 a7 30 02 e0 00 2623.250 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 67 3d e2 e0 00 2604.800 READ SECTOR(S) 20 00 08 67 b9 f7 e0 00 2604.750 READ SECTOR(S) SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short captive Completed without error 00% 458 - # 2 Short captive Interrupted (host reset) 80% 938 -

SMART po zalohovani a po write zeros:

Kód:

smartctl version 5.1-18 Copyright (C) 2002-3 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: WDC WD400BB-00AUA1 Serial Number: WD-WMA6R3401126 Firmware Version: 18.20D18 Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: 5 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated Local Time is: Sat Jan 24 10:51:03 2004 CET SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Off-line data collection status: (0x85) Offline data collection activity was aborted by an interrupting command from host. Auto Off-line Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete off-line data collection: (2040) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Automatic timer ON/OFF support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. No Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. No General Purpose Logging support. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 32) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 194 074 051 Pre-fail Always - 73 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 126 100 021 Pre-fail Always - 2525 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 098 098 040 Old_age Always - 2082 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0032 200 200 112 Old_age Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 086 086 000 Old_age Always - 10778 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 098 051 Pre-fail Always - 2 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1759 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 200 193 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 253 000 Old_age Always - 7 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 ATA Error Count: 112 (device log contains only the most recent five errors) CR = Command Register [HEX] FR = Features Register [HEX] SC = Sector Count Register [HEX] SN = Sector Number Register [HEX] CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX] CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX] DH = Device/Head Register [HEX] DC = Device Command Register [HEX] ER = Error register [HEX] ST = Status register [HEX] Timestamp = decimal seconds since the previous disk power-on. Note: timestamp "wraps" after 2^32 msec = 49.710 days. Error 112 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 944 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 01 b3 30 11 e3 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- c8 00 01 b3 30 11 e3 00 1101.100 READ DMA c8 00 01 b6 30 11 e3 00 1101.000 READ DMA c8 00 01 b5 30 11 e3 00 1100.900 READ DMA c8 00 01 b4 30 11 e3 00 1100.900 READ DMA c8 00 08 37 4d 7a e0 00 1100.900 READ DMA Error 111 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 944 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 01 b3 30 11 e3 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- c8 00 01 b3 30 11 e3 00 1091.600 READ DMA c8 00 08 8f 3d 7a e0 00 1091.600 READ DMA c8 00 01 b2 30 11 e3 00 1091.500 READ DMA c8 00 08 67 42 7a e0 00 1091.500 READ DMA c8 00 01 b1 30 11 e3 00 1091.400 READ DMA Error 110 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 944 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 08 b3 30 11 e3 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- c8 00 08 af 30 11 e3 00 1080.950 READ DMA c8 00 08 bf 5f 08 e0 00 1080.950 READ DMA c8 00 08 a7 30 11 e3 00 1080.300 READ DMA c8 00 08 87 44 51 e0 00 1080.300 READ DMA c8 00 08 9f 30 11 e3 00 1079.900 READ DMA Error 109 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 944 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 7e 8c 30 11 e3 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- c8 00 7e 3d 30 11 e3 00 1068.400 READ DMA c8 00 7e bf 2f 11 e3 00 1068.400 READ DMA c8 00 7e 41 2f 11 e3 00 1068.400 READ DMA c8 00 7e c3 2e 11 e3 00 1068.400 READ DMA c8 00 7e 45 2e 11 e3 00 1068.400 READ DMA Error 108 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 944 hours When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 01 2c 3d 79 e1 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Timestamp Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --------- -------------------- 40 00 01 2c 3d 79 e1 00 764.850 READ VERIFY SECTOR(S) 40 00 01 2b 3d 79 e1 00 758.800 READ VERIFY SECTOR(S) 40 00 01 2a 3d 79 e1 00 753.350 READ VERIFY SECTOR(S) 40 00 01 29 3d 79 e1 00 747.800 READ VERIFY SECTOR(S) 40 00 01 28 3d 79 e1 00 741.750 READ VERIFY SECTOR(S) SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short captive Completed without error 00% 944 - # 2 Short captive Completed without error 00% 944 - # 3 Short captive Completed without error 00% 458 - # 4 Short captive Interrupted (host reset) 80% 938 -

Stav z ActiveSMART (je to uplny shit oproti smartctl):
http://www.rainbow-software.org/misc/smart.png

Re: WD400BB - blizi sa koniec?

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Původně odeslal Rainbow

Mam ho uz skoro 3 roky (vyrobeny bol 4/2001), doteraz bez problemov. Dnes som defragmentoval disk a pri tom mi to zamrzlo, LEDka svietila a z disku sa ozyvali slabe divne zvuky (pokusal sa precitat dokola to iste). Tak som to resetoval a pustil rucne scandisk. Zastavil sa na chybe, ze bad sector a treba pustit thorough test.
Nabootoval som z diskety od WD a quick test mi povedal, ze na disku su chyby, ktore mozu byt opravitelne a spytal sa, ci ich chcem opravit. Dal som nie, disk pripojil do druheho PC a zalohoval vsetko dolezite (zaujimave, ze ked treba, tak obsah 40GB disku vojde na 30GB disk, na ktorom je uz kopa vselicoho ;D ).
Potom som to dal "opravit" tou diagnostikou od WD. Po "opraveni" uz quick test presiel bez problemov, tak som spustil este extended test - ten skoncil s chybou 0357. Tak som dal write zeros a to teraz bezi (asi 2 a pol hodiny) - som zvedavy, co z toho bude...
Stretol sa niekto s takymto problemom pri diskoch WD?
A este trochu OT otazka: aky disk mam kupit? WD1200JB alebo Samsung SP1213N? IBM/Hitachi, Maxtor ani Seagate nechcem.

Přesně tohle mi udělal po roce a půl provozu (vyroben 12'01, v provozu od 1'02, odešel 7'03). Write zeros pomohlo zhruba na měsíc, pak stejná chyba (0357 DAM, sektory alokovány někam do pr...) SMART status vždycky zalítal jak šílenej. Jinak na ATA100 už potom neběžel, protože tam od zhroucení se nikdy neprošel testem. Na ATA33 se mi ho povedlo "opravit", pak se stejně vysypal znova.

Bez problémů mi to vyreklamovali za nový disk, akorát to chvilku trvalo. Radši neotálej s reklamací.

Ten tvoj bol ten stary typ:
http://www.rainbow-software.org/imag...e/wd400bb_.png
alebo ten novsi v EBckovom obale?
http://www.computex.ws/img/news/353/wd400bb.jpg

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Původně odeslal Rainbow

Ten tvoj bol ten stary typ:

alebo ten novsi v EBckovom obale?

Byl to ten starý. "EB-like" jsem dostal až po reklamaci. Vím, kam tím míříš. Jinak ty "EBčkové" nemají krytou elektroniku (že by na tom obrázku byl vzorek?) a bohužel se dnes v tomhle pouzdru dodává i 800JB... :-/

Měl jsem o tom někde na foru i thread, ale už je to 3 měsíce zpátky, takže bude asi smazaný.

Prave som tam vsetko nakopiroval a idem to trochu otestovat.
V pondelok pojdem asi kupit Samsung... :roll:

Teraz mam ten disk spolu s WD300BB v jednom PC. Ten WD300BB je podstatne tichsi - a myslim, ze ten 400BB nebol taky hlucny, ked bol novy - takze sa asi nejako vydralo lozisko...
Zatazujem ho - kopirujem a pod. - a tvari sa, ze mu vobec nic nie je. RAW Read Error Rate je stale 200, do logu nepribudli ziadne chyby. Este skusim pustit SMART long test, ale to az ked budem v Linuxe (pre Windows na to asi neexistuje ziadny program :evil: )

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Původně odeslal Rainbow

Teraz mam ten disk spolu s WD300BB v jednom PC. Ten WD300BB je podstatne tichsi - a myslim, ze ten 400BB nebol taky hlucny, ked bol novy - takze sa asi nejako vydralo lozisko...
Zatazujem ho - kopirujem a pod. - a tvari sa, ze mu vobec nic nie je. RAW Read Error Rate je stale 200, do logu nepribudli ziadne chyby. Este skusim pustit SMART long test, ale to az ked budem v Linuxe (pre Windows na to asi neexistuje ziadny program :evil: )

Ano, chová se naprosto stejně jako ten můj... Každopádně ho byla škoda.
Zvýšenou hlučnost jsem pozoroval rovněž, ale drnčel jen někdy a spíš výjimečně.

Jinak já měl problém někde na hranici 27.GB. (~69%).